passengers consuming alcohol on a part 91 flight

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Actually, it is the duty of the pilot to see that his passengers do not
become intoxicated during the flight. If they do, then you have already
violated the regulations.

Which ones?

91.17

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Actually, it is the duty of the pilot to see that his passengers do
not
become intoxicated during the flight. If they do, then you have
already
violated the regulations.

Which ones?

91.17

I know several people that won't fly if they're NOT intoxicated (my
mother-in-law).

My boss's idea of "on board refreshments" is a six pack of Diet RC. Mine,
too.

C J Campbell wrote:
"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Actually, it is the duty of the pilot to see that his passengers do not
become intoxicated during the flight. If they do, then you have already
violated the regulations.

Which ones?


91.17


91.17 "No pilot ... may allow a person who appears to be intoxicated...
to be carried in the aircraft." I suppose it is ok if the intoxicated
person is sober enough to crawl in the aircraft. :-)

"m pautz" wrote in message
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C J Campbell wrote:
"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Actually, it is the duty of the pilot to see that his passengers do not
become intoxicated during the flight. If they do, then you have already
violated the regulations.

Which ones?


91.17


91.17 "No pilot ... may allow a person who appears to be intoxicated...
to be carried in the aircraft." I suppose it is ok if the intoxicated
person is sober enough to crawl in the aircraft. :-)

And the point (I think) was SERVING alcohol, and the regulation infers
allowing a passenger to board when already intoxicated.

Tom Sixkiller wrote:
"m pautz" wrote in message
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C J Campbell wrote:

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Actually, it is the duty of the pilot to see that his passengers do not
become intoxicated during the flight. If they do, then you have already
violated the regulations.

Which ones?


91.17



91.17 "No pilot ... may allow a person who appears to be intoxicated...
to be carried in the aircraft." I suppose it is ok if the intoxicated
person is sober enough to crawl in the aircraft. :-)


And the point (I think) was SERVING alcohol, and the regulation infers
allowing a passenger to board when already intoxicated.



My post was tongue-in-cheek. Since the the FARs don't have a definition
for "carried" in section 1.1, 91.17 is, tongue-in-cheek, vague and
could be interpretted to mean hand-carried in(to) the airplane.

I waited until all of the serious posts were complete before diverting
the topic with my meaningless post.

As has already been pointed out, there are no regs against serving
alcohol. 91.17 means "'transported' in an aircraft", not "carried
into". As CJ pointed out, this means that a pilot cannot allow a
passenger to start out intoxicated or become intoxicated while being
carried in that plane.

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Tom Sixkiller wrote:
"m pautz" wrote in message
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C J Campbell wrote:

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in
message
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Actually, it is the duty of the pilot to see that his passengers do
not
become intoxicated during the flight. If they do, then you have
already
violated the regulations.

Which ones?


91.17



91.17 "No pilot ... may allow a person who appears to be intoxicated...
to be carried in the aircraft." I suppose it is ok if the intoxicated
person is sober enough to crawl in the aircraft. :-)


And the point (I think) was SERVING alcohol, and the regulation infers
allowing a passenger to board when already intoxicated.



My post was tongue-in-cheek. Since the the FARs don't have a definition
for "carried" in section 1.1, 91.17 is, tongue-in-cheek, vague and
could be interpretted to mean hand-carried in(to) the airplane.


Sometimes tongue-in-cheek (satire) can be very enlightening. For this case,
it shows (whether you intended it so or not) that the FAR is vague.


I waited until all of the serious posts were complete before diverting
the topic with my meaningless post.

As has already been pointed out, there are no regs against serving
alcohol. 91.17 means "'transported' in an aircraft", not "carried
into".

And especially not "carried off of".

As CJ pointed out, this means that a pilot cannot allow a
passenger to start out intoxicated or become intoxicated while being
carried in that plane.

I didn't see the CJ clarified THAT point.

Tom Sixkiller wrote:

As CJ pointed out, this means that a pilot cannot allow a
passenger to start out intoxicated or become intoxicated while being
carried in that plane.

I didn't see the CJ clarified THAT point.

Seemed pretty clear to me. He said
"Actually, it is the duty of the pilot to see that his passengers do not
become intoxicated during the flight. If they do, then you have already
violated the regulations."

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Tom Sixkiller wrote:

As CJ pointed out, this means that a pilot cannot allow a
passenger to start out intoxicated or become intoxicated while being
carried in that plane.

I didn't see the CJ clarified THAT point.

Seemed pretty clear to me. He said
"Actually, it is the duty of the pilot to see that his passengers do not
become intoxicated during the flight. If they do, then you have already
violated the regulations."


Whoops, sorry! I missed that one...the one post of his I did see merely
stated the FAR in question, with no further comment.

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