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#11
November 19th 04, 05:50 PM
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I thought that terrorists didn't care about landing...
"Ramapriya" wrote in message om... Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded  Ramapriya 
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#12
November 19th 04, 06:27 PM
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Of course! Flaps are for girls, anyway!! :-)
Shawn Taylorcraft BC-12D Pitts Special S-1D "Ramapriya" wrote in message om... Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded Ramapriya
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#13
November 19th 04, 07:00 PM
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In article , Ramapriya wrote:
Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... throttle == thrust. Throttle controls the engine. The engine generates both energy and thrust (not the same thing, but two sides of a coin, depending on which view you need). I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded You're out of luck :-) As pointed out, some aircraft don't even have flaps at all. Flaps generally control how much drag you have (to a degree, they also change the shape of the wing so you can generate the same lift at slower speeds). You can also control the drag by flying sideways a bit. This is called slipping. It is not approved to do both unless you get the official tee shirt. :-) Followups to rec.aviation.student. Morris
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#14
November 19th 04, 09:43 PM
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"Dean Wilkinson" wrote in message ... I thought that terrorists didn't care about landing... Don't start that sh*t again! -- Jim in NC --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.797 / Virus Database: 541 - Release Date: 11/16/2004
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#15
November 20th 04, 01:45 AM
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Jay,
they practice it all the way up to the 747.... Jay Honeck wrote: Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded Sorry, but the answer is an easy "yes"... In fact, every student practices no-flap landings as part of basic flight training. -- Michelle P ATP-ASEL, CP-AMEL, and AMT-A&P "Elisabeth" a Maule M-7-235B (no two are alike) Volunteer Pilot, Angel Flight Mid-Atlantic Volunteer Builder, Habitat for Humanity
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#16
November 20th 04, 02:02 AM
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even in B-1s, just add 50knots or more to the normal approach speed.
BT "Michelle P" wrote in message ink.net... Jay, they practice it all the way up to the 747.... Jay Honeck wrote: Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded Sorry, but the answer is an easy "yes"... In fact, every student practices no-flap landings as part of basic flight training. -- Michelle P ATP-ASEL, CP-AMEL, and AMT-A&P "Elisabeth" a Maule M-7-235B (no two are alike) Volunteer Pilot, Angel Flight Mid-Atlantic Volunteer Builder, Habitat for Humanity
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#17
November 20th 04, 02:11 AM
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Really...... I never did.
***feeling like I'be been cheated*** "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:F7mnd.427193$D%.87002@attbi_s51... Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded Sorry, but the answer is an easy "yes"... In fact, every student practices no-flap landings as part of basic flight training. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination"
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#19
November 20th 04, 11:25 PM
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 01:45:04 GMT, Michelle P
wrote: Jay, they practice it all the way up to the 747.... I do it at least once a month in the Deb. It adds about 10 MPH over the fence and about 1500 feet to the landing. That and the nose is so high at touchdown you can only see the airport out the side windows. Then about the only sight of the runway are the edge lights unless it's a wide runway. :-)) Nothing but sky through the windshield. I would add, that although the touchdown is faster it sure is smooth. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com Jay Honeck wrote: Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded Sorry, but the answer is an easy "yes"... In fact, every student practices no-flap landings as part of basic flight training.
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#20
November 21st 04, 02:07 AM
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Really...... I never did.
***feeling like I'be been cheated*** You *never* practiced no-flaps landings? Wow -- how long ago did you learn to fly? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination"
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