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Old February 27th 05, 09:39 AM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

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Try 91.205 (d) (2) for starters:

d) Instrument flight rules. For IFR flight, the following instruments and
equipment are required:

(2) Two-way radio communications system and navigational equipment
appropriate to the ground facilities to be used.


That states what equipment is required to be aboard, it does not restrict
the use of equipment not required to be aboard.


Think non-radar operations, where the controller isn't going to play
"Frick and Frack" direct-to games with you. Failure to comply with 91.205
can
rapidly lead to 91.3, and the FAA attorneys win every time.


Nobody suggested IFR operations without the required equipment.


Are you suggesting Michael is a nobody? He stated:

A handheld GPS will not come with such a placard, and there's no rule
that says you can't use it for enroute IFR (anyone who says otherwise
is welcome to quote chapter and verse from the approriate regulation -
NOT an advisory circular or AIM).

This was stated in the context of a thread asking the somewhat rhetorical
question "Will /G become mandatory because of the movement to begin to shut
down VOR stations. Since Michael proposed using a portable GPS based on a
incorrect presmise that it has no placard that restricts it to VFR (not true in
substance in that the operating material suppied with the units state that), he
was clearing challenging operating in an area without adequate VOR stations for
non-radar IFR operations.


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Old February 27th 05, 01:33 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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wrote in message ...

Are you suggesting Michael is a nobody? He stated:

A handheld GPS will not come with such a placard, and there's no rule
that says you can't use it for enroute IFR (anyone who says otherwise
is welcome to quote chapter and verse from the approriate regulation -
NOT an advisory circular or AIM).

This was stated in the context of a thread asking the somewhat rhetorical
question "Will /G become mandatory because of the movement to begin to
shut
down VOR stations. Since Michael proposed using a portable GPS based on a
incorrect presmise that it has no placard that restricts it to VFR (not
true in
substance in that the operating material suppied with the units state
that), he
was clearing challenging operating in an area without adequate VOR
stations for
non-radar IFR operations.


Nobody suggested IFR operations without the required equipment. A handheld
GPS does not require any placard to be affixed to the aircraft or any change
to a flight manual.


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Old February 27th 05, 08:23 PM
Bob Noel
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In article . net,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

Nobody suggested IFR operations without the required equipment. A handheld
GPS does not require any placard to be affixed to the aircraft or any change
to a flight manual.


Note also that a handheld GPS does not enable any IFR operation that a
pilot couldn't do without the handheld GPS.

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