argh -- flight plan routes

"Peter R." wrote:

Roy Smith wrote:

Look up the routes in the back of the AFD.

In the Northeast US, filing the preferred route does not always guarantee a
cleared as filed

No, it doesn't. The published routes are a good guess, though. The worst
that happens if you file the "wrong" route and you get a full route
clearance.

Does ATC really care about details of the route as long as you end up at
one of the fixes used for the STAR arrivals? I've always had good luck
filing a direct route to the STAR fix. For instance, to the Detroit
satellite airports, I would file direct to CRUXX and then to the
destination. I do the same thing for Chicago-Midway: direct to CGT and
then to MDW. As long as my route does not go through any other airspace
or MOA, I get cleared as filed. Same for Cleveland area airports: direct
to KEATN and then to the destination airport. I've not had many
instances where this technique has failed.





Roy Smith wrote in
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"Peter R." wrote:

Roy Smith wrote:

Look up the routes in the back of the AFD.

In the Northeast US, filing the preferred route does not always
guarantee a cleared as filed

No, it doesn't. The published routes are a good guess, though. The
worst that happens if you file the "wrong" route and you get a full
route clearance.