prior arrangement for lights?

In article .com,
"Chuck" wrote:

Not always. I was supprised when I ask for a "Pop Up" from Toledo, OH
the other day. I ask for a GPS approach and he ask if the plane was
IFR GPS equiped and current. I guess because there are so many VFR
GPSs. I said yes and that was that.

This caught my eye the other day:

!FDC 5/2548 FWN FI/T SUSSEX, SUSSEX, NJ.
VOR OR GPS-A AMDT 5B...
PROCEDURE NA EXCEPT FOR IFR GPS-EQUIPPED AIRCRAFT.

I struck me as strange that they felt the need to explicitly state "IFR
GPS" for an approach procedure. And, even then, it's badly worded, since
there are plenty of IFR GPS units which are not approved for approaches.

Roy Smith wrote:

In article .com,
"Chuck" wrote:

Not always. I was supprised when I ask for a "Pop Up" from Toledo, OH
the other day. I ask for a GPS approach and he ask if the plane was
IFR GPS equiped and current. I guess because there are so many VFR
GPSs. I said yes and that was that.

This caught my eye the other day:

!FDC 5/2548 FWN FI/T SUSSEX, SUSSEX, NJ.
VOR OR GPS-A AMDT 5B...
PROCEDURE NA EXCEPT FOR IFR GPS-EQUIPPED AIRCRAFT.

I struck me as strange that they felt the need to explicitly state "IFR
GPS" for an approach procedure. And, even then, it's badly worded, since
there are plenty of IFR GPS units which are not approved for approaches.

Part of the requirement is to be able to retrieve the approach from the
database. You can't do that with an IFR GPS unit that is not approved for
approaches. So, why would the FAA need to state the obvious?

As to their stating "IFR GPS-EQUIPPED AIRCRAFT" if they simply said
"GPS-EQUPPED AIRCRAFT" some airport jailhouse lawyer would point to it as
implicit authorization to fly the approach with a Garmin hand-held.

Roy Smith wrote in message ...
In article .com,
"Chuck" wrote:

Not always. I was supprised when I ask for a "Pop Up" from Toledo, OH
the other day. I ask for a GPS approach and he ask if the plane was
IFR GPS equiped and current. I guess because there are so many VFR
GPSs. I said yes and that was that.

This caught my eye the other day:

!FDC 5/2548 FWN FI/T SUSSEX, SUSSEX, NJ.
VOR OR GPS-A AMDT 5B...
PROCEDURE NA EXCEPT FOR IFR GPS-EQUIPPED AIRCRAFT.

I struck me as strange that they felt the need to explicitly state "IFR
GPS" for an approach procedure. And, even then, it's badly worded, since
there are plenty of IFR GPS units which are not approved for approaches.

I think what they are saying is that the VOR is not usable for the
approach. You can't even shoot the VOR and use the VFR GPS as a
backup.

-Robert