Capt. Al Haynes sorta OT.

On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 05:33:05 -0800, wrote:



Jay Honeck wrote:


Capt. Haynes is a retired airline captain, and a sought-after speaker on the
mashed-potato circuit. As such he should set for life, and pretty much
rolling in money.

There are some retired TWA pilots that need to work to make ends meet. There
are some recently retired pilots from "reorganized" carriers who have lost a
good portion of their retirement.

Then, there's those overpaid school teachers in California who retire at 100%,
get COLA increases from a bankrupt state, and who are rolling in dough.~

And should we feel sorry for each and every person who either made a
bad decision in their lives or squandered their savings?

As I say to the major propilots on the field, it would be a real bitch
to have to live on $150K a year. Stop your ****ing and moaning and
get on with life.

Stu Gotts wrote:

On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 05:33:05 -0800, wrote:



Jay Honeck wrote:


Capt. Haynes is a retired airline captain, and a sought-after speaker on the
mashed-potato circuit. As such he should set for life, and pretty much
rolling in money.

There are some retired TWA pilots that need to work to make ends meet. There
are some recently retired pilots from "reorganized" carriers who have lost a
good portion of their retirement.

Then, there's those overpaid school teachers in California who retire at 100%,
get COLA increases from a bankrupt state, and who are rolling in dough.~

And should we feel sorry for each and every person who either made a
bad decision in their lives or squandered their savings?

As I say to the major propilots on the field, it would be a real bitch
to have to live on $150K a year. Stop your ****ing and moaning and
get on with life.

No ****ing and moaning from me. I just burns me when you jerks think all airline
pilots make or made $150K per year. That was my point, but you Cessna wannabes are
so jealous of real pilots, your vision is more than slightly clouded.

That is (was) true of some, but certainly not all. At TWA they couldn't break the
$100 K barrier, and the F/Os and F/Es did far worse.

On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 07:31:29 -0800, wrote:



Stu Gotts wrote:

On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 05:33:05 -0800, wrote:



Jay Honeck wrote:


Capt. Haynes is a retired airline captain, and a sought-after speaker on the
mashed-potato circuit. As such he should set for life, and pretty much
rolling in money.

There are some retired TWA pilots that need to work to make ends meet. There
are some recently retired pilots from "reorganized" carriers who have lost a
good portion of their retirement.

Then, there's those overpaid school teachers in California who retire at 100%,
get COLA increases from a bankrupt state, and who are rolling in dough.~

And should we feel sorry for each and every person who either made a
bad decision in their lives or squandered their savings?

As I say to the major propilots on the field, it would be a real bitch
to have to live on $150K a year. Stop your ****ing and moaning and
get on with life.

No ****ing and moaning from me. I just burns me when you jerks think all airline
pilots make or made $150K per year. That was my point, but you Cessna wannabes are
so jealous of real pilots, your vision is more than slightly clouded.

That is (was) true of some, but certainly not all. At TWA they couldn't break the
$100 K barrier, and the F/Os and F/Es did far worse.

I'm far from a Cessna wannabe and certainly wouldn't want to take the
pay cut in order to become an airline pilot. Fact of the matter is in
my Money Magazine defined "upscale" town of residence, the average
family annual median income is $87.5K. That'll include all the folks
making $45K and all the folks making $500K. Not NYC, where COL is
through the roof, but still located within a major metroplex. That
could be determined to say that in the surrounding area a majority of
regular people are supporting families very well at about $60K per
year. If you, or your crybaby friends can't make a go of it at $100K+
per year, why not subsidize your income with a second job at Home
Depot rather than look down your noses at who you think may be jealous
of your career choice.

It's been my experience that the higher the pay, the more ****ing and
moaning goes on. On my field we have Delta guys at $250K, American
guys at $200K and Southwest guys at $12.00 an hour. The most crying
comes from those who realize that if they can't fly, they're incapable
of surviving. The least amount of crying is from those boys that
struggled, were furloughed for a few years or out of a job completely.
They realize that life does not begin or end flying for someone.
Happy New Year.

wrote in message ...

No ****ing and moaning from me. I just burns me when you jerks think all airline
pilots make or made $150K per year. That was my point, but you Cessna wannabes are
so jealous of real pilots, your vision is more than slightly clouded.

We're talking about a guy who was left seat on a DC-10 for United however.