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Old December 14th 05, 03:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Why do you say that I am making up my own FAR? Can you show that
logging PIC XC time as a safety pilot is consistent with the FARs?

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Old December 14th 05, 06:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Andrew Sarangan wrote:

Can you show that
logging PIC XC time as a safety pilot is consistent with the FARs?


Sure. If I'm the safety pilot, I can log "Pilot in Command" time while the
hooded pilot logs "Pilot in Control" time. If we reach the destination
(say, 60nm away) where I assume control and land, I can log the flight as
PIC and XC.

Now, just because I can doesn't mean I would or should. I've mabye logged a
third of the time I've spent as a safety pilot - and those were when a
friend would be maintaining currency and not just proficiency.

It's my opinion that one should not try to game the system by sitting right
seat for a friend and then try to log that as time toward a new rating. The
point of the regs is to ensure you have the experience necessary and simply
making sure the greasy side stays down and nobody swaps paint doesn't
qualify as flight experience, IMHO.

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Old December 14th 05, 10:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Once the safety pilot assumes control of the aircraft and lands, the
other pilot will obviously not be the sole manipulator. Therefore the
other pilot can only log PIC for the enroute portion. Since a XC flight
must involve a landing, I don't see how he could log the flight as XC.

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Old December 15th 05, 04:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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Once the safety pilot assumes control of the aircraft and lands, the
other pilot will obviously not be the sole manipulator. Therefore the
other pilot can only log PIC for the enroute portion. Since a XC
flight must involve a landing, I don't see how he could log the
flight as XC.


That wasn't your question, though.

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Old December 15th 05, 09:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Andrew Sarangan wrote:
Once the safety pilot assumes control of the aircraft and lands, the
other pilot will obviously not be the sole manipulator. Therefore the
other pilot can only log PIC for the enroute portion. Since a XC flight
must involve a landing, I don't see how he could log the flight as XC.


Part 61.1:
(ii) For the purpose of meeting the aeronautical experience requirements
(except for a rotorcraft category rating), for a private pilot certificate
(except for a powered parachute category rating), a commercial pilot
certificate, or an instrument rating, or for the purpose of exercising
recreational pilot privileges (except in a rotorcraft) under §61.101 (c),
time acquired during a flight...

Note "time acquired during a (XC) flight"; it is a XC flight, therefore you
may log the time acquired during it. It's as simple as that, black and
white; no mention of 'planning' in sight and nothing that says you must be
any form of required crewmember during the *entire* flight.

Hilton


 




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