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Study my Garmin 530 manual and learn three more things it does. Or do a VOR
cross check. Or total up the columns in my log book. Or trim fingernails, finish the crossword puzzle. If it is a real cross country you have plenty of dead time. You are either a super pilot or have a autopilot. |
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What's wrong with sitting back and enjoying the flight?
(Hankal) wrote in : Study my Garmin 530 manual and learn three more things it does. Or do a VOR cross check. Or total up the columns in my log book. Or trim fingernails, finish the crossword puzzle. If it is a real cross country you have plenty of dead time. You are either a super pilot or have a autopilot. |
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Are you kidding? The autopilot is a go/no-go item.
"Hankal" wrote in message ... Study my Garmin 530 manual and learn three more things it does. Or do a VOR cross check. Or total up the columns in my log book. Or trim fingernails, finish the crossword puzzle. If it is a real cross country you have plenty of dead time. You are either a super pilot or have a autopilot. |
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Dan Thompson wrote:
Are you kidding? The autopilot is a go/no-go item. "Hankal" wrote in message ... Study my Garmin 530 manual and learn three more things it does. Or do a VOR cross check. Or total up the columns in my log book. Or trim fingernails, finish the crossword puzzle. If it is a real cross country you have plenty of dead time. You are either a super pilot or have a autopilot. What's an autopilot? :-) Matt |
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IMHO an autopilot is a must have if you are flying IFR. :-)
Jon Kraus PP-ASEL Student-IA Matthew S. Whiting wrote: Dan Thompson wrote: Are you kidding? The autopilot is a go/no-go item. "Hankal" wrote in message ... Study my Garmin 530 manual and learn three more things it does. Or do a VOR cross check. Or total up the columns in my log book. Or trim fingernails, finish the crossword puzzle. If it is a real cross country you have plenty of dead time. You are either a super pilot or have a autopilot. What's an autopilot? :-) Matt |
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Kidding aside, the autopilot takes the monotony and boredom out of IFR. To
me, there is nothing challenging about maintaining altitude and track for hours at a time in the clouds. It is just boring as hell. The autopilot is not a substitute for hand-flying skills. One must always be sharp enough to go without. I usually hand fly approaches, because I enjoy it. If I am really tired for some reason, or the ceilings are really low, it is actually safer to use the autopilot which can fly the approach better than I can. My initial and instrument flight instructor back in the early '90s went on to flying ATR turboprops for American Eagle. One time he called me up out of the blue to see if I wanted to go fly some practice approaches in my plane. I was amazed to find out that the commuter planes then were not equipped with autopilots. He said with two pilots on board, and short, fast hops between stops, it was never really an issue. "Jon Kraus" wrote in message ... IMHO an autopilot is a must have if you are flying IFR. :-) Jon Kraus PP-ASEL Student-IA Matthew S. Whiting wrote: Dan Thompson wrote: Are you kidding? The autopilot is a go/no-go item. "Hankal" wrote in message ... Study my Garmin 530 manual and learn three more things it does. Or do a VOR cross check. Or total up the columns in my log book. Or trim fingernails, finish the crossword puzzle. If it is a real cross country you have plenty of dead time. You are either a super pilot or have a autopilot. What's an autopilot? :-) Matt |
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Jon Kraus wrote:
IMHO an autopilot is a must have if you are flying IFR. :-) Good thing I didn't know that or I'd not have been able to fly my Skylane for six years in IFR! The Skylane also apparently didn't know that it needed an autopilot as it flew in the clouds just fine without it. :-) There were a few times when an AP would have been nice, such as when getting a full route reroute and having to reprogram the GPS, but even that could be done in stages. Just get the first waypoint in and then you could add the others one or two at a time. Does tend to keep your flying skills pretty sharp ... and I never had to worry about my AP failing at a critical time. Matt |
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I never said you couldn't fly IFR without an autopilot. For myself being
new to IFR flying I wouldn't chance IMC without the autopilot working. Since my club only has newer planes, they all have two axis autopilots, that way if something happens (spacial disorientation) I'm covered. I think I'll bring up this topic in a new thread and see what kind of responses I get. Thanks for the enlightenment. Jon Kraus PP-ASEL Student-IA Matthew S. Whiting wrote: Jon Kraus wrote: IMHO an autopilot is a must have if you are flying IFR. :-) Good thing I didn't know that or I'd not have been able to fly my Skylane for six years in IFR! The Skylane also apparently didn't know that it needed an autopilot as it flew in the clouds just fine without it. :-) There were a few times when an AP would have been nice, such as when getting a full route reroute and having to reprogram the GPS, but even that could be done in stages. Just get the first waypoint in and then you could add the others one or two at a time. Does tend to keep your flying skills pretty sharp ... and I never had to worry about my AP failing at a critical time. Matt |
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Jon Kraus wrote:
I never said you couldn't fly IFR without an autopilot. For myself being new to IFR flying I wouldn't chance IMC without the autopilot working. Since my club only has newer planes, they all have two axis autopilots, that way if something happens (spacial disorientation) I'm covered. I think I'll bring up this topic in a new thread and see what kind of responses I get. Thanks for the enlightenment. I know you didn't say that, hence the smiley after my statement. However, and this is a serious statement, I would never fly IFR if I even thought I'd have to depend on the AP to rescue me from spatial disorientation. Matt |
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Why? I've only recently put an autopilot in my plane, and it is jsut a
single axis one at that. Before installing it, I've never flown IFR WITH and autopilot equipped plane (I have ~1100 hrs in 'the system'). Autopilot is nice for flipping maps, taking clearances etc, but I don't consider it mandatory. Even now, I hand fly most of the time. The autopilot mostly gets used only when attending to other chores. For flying in the Northeast, I think having a strikefinder or equiv spherics detector is a much higher priority than having an autopilot. Jon Kraus wrote: IMHO an autopilot is a must have if you are flying IFR. :-) Jon Kraus PP-ASEL Student-IA Matthew S. Whiting wrote: Dan Thompson wrote: Are you kidding? The autopilot is a go/no-go item. "Hankal" wrote in message ... Study my Garmin 530 manual and learn three more things it does. Or do a VOR cross check. Or total up the columns in my log book. Or trim fingernails, finish the crossword puzzle. If it is a real cross country you have plenty of dead time. You are either a super pilot or have a autopilot. What's an autopilot? :-) Matt -- --Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 http://www.andraka.com "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, 1759 |
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