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April 9th 04, 10:24 PM
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"Bob Gardner" wrote in
news:7vDdc.810$nK1.8649@attbi_s54: I have heard rumors for years that the feds were going to eliminate MSAs because pilots persist in trying to make them part of IFR procedures. Hasn't happened yet, and the misunderstanding is still around. Bob Gardner I like the MSA because it gives me an idea of what the terrain is like. We had this discussion before, but no one has given a good reason what exactly is wrong with the MSA. It gives you 1000' obstacle clearance, which is exactly what you need for IFR (except in mountainous areas). Someone pointed out that MSA is not an IFR procedure because the AIM says it is for emergency use only. Someone else said it was because MSA is not measured to the same precision as other altitudes. Fine, but if the FAA is going as far as eliminating it, there must be something more to this than that. Has there ever been an accident or violation as a result of a pilot using the MSA? 
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April 10th 04, 12:16 AM
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No way of knowing. If there had been an accident, a contributing factor
would be "improper IFR" with no details. Bob Gardner "Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message . 158... "Bob Gardner" wrote in news:7vDdc.810$nK1.8649@attbi_s54: I have heard rumors for years that the feds were going to eliminate MSAs because pilots persist in trying to make them part of IFR procedures. Hasn't happened yet, and the misunderstanding is still around. Bob Gardner I like the MSA because it gives me an idea of what the terrain is like. We had this discussion before, but no one has given a good reason what exactly is wrong with the MSA. It gives you 1000' obstacle clearance, which is exactly what you need for IFR (except in mountainous areas). Someone pointed out that MSA is not an IFR procedure because the AIM says it is for emergency use only. Someone else said it was because MSA is not measured to the same precision as other altitudes. Fine, but if the FAA is going as far as eliminating it, there must be something more to this than that. Has there ever been an accident or violation as a result of a pilot using the MSA?
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