Definition of simulated instrument conditions

Ron:

I wrote the chief counsel's office about fifteen years ago on this
issue of logging "black hole time" after a long dispute about it on
AVSIG.
They sent me a copy of the above - supporting my position that the
criterion was "solely by reference to instruments" as opposed to "IMC"
for the logging of instrument time.

Reminds me of a time flying VFR over the top at night and the
controller asking my flight visibility. I said about 250,000 miles.
After the silence, I said that all I could see was the moon.

On 29 Jan 2006 11:17:44 -0800, wrote:

Ron:

I wrote the chief counsel's office about fifteen years ago on this
issue of logging "black hole time" after a long dispute about it on
AVSIG.
They sent me a copy of the above - supporting my position that the
criterion was "solely by reference to instruments" as opposed to "IMC"
for the logging of instrument time.

Reminds me of a time flying VFR over the top at night and the
controller asking my flight visibility. I said about 250,000 miles.
After the silence, I said that all I could see was the moon.


I've certainly experienced black hole time. I recall departing KPVC (on
Cape Cod) one overcast night in the winter. It was clearly VMC, but until
I got close to the shoreline N of BOS, I would not have been able to
control the airplane without reference to instruments.

I'll have to remember your celestial visibility comment, though. But if I
can see the stars, do I report in miles or light years? :-))


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

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Ron:

I wrote the chief counsel's office about fifteen years ago on this
issue of logging "black hole time" after a long dispute about it on
AVSIG.
They sent me a copy of the above - supporting my position that the
criterion was "solely by reference to instruments" as opposed to "IMC"
for the logging of instrument time.

Reminds me of a time flying VFR over the top at night and the
controller asking my flight visibility. I said about 250,000 miles.
After the silence, I said that all I could see was the moon.

Moonless night over a cloud deck.

One that got my screwed up was fying along on top of a cloud deck that was
pitched at about a 30 degree angle -- pretty hard to override the
inclination to assume a flat deck below you.

Matt Barrow

About 40-50 years ago two airliners had a mid-air collision
over NYC, flying VFR between sloping cloud layers. They saw
each other and took evasive action visually, and had the
collision because they saw each other.


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James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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| wrote in message
|
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| Ron:
|
| I wrote the chief counsel's office about fifteen years
ago on this
| issue of logging "black hole time" after a long dispute
about it on
| AVSIG.
| They sent me a copy of the above - supporting my
position that the
| criterion was "solely by reference to instruments" as
opposed to "IMC"
| for the logging of instrument time.
|
| Reminds me of a time flying VFR over the top at night
and the
| controller asking my flight visibility. I said about
250,000 miles.
| After the silence, I said that all I could see was the
moon.
|
| Moonless night over a cloud deck.
|
| One that got my screwed up was fying along on top of a
cloud deck that was
| pitched at about a 30 degree angle -- pretty hard to
override the
| inclination to assume a flat deck below you.
|
| Matt Barrow
|
|