Right seat flying

In the third paragraph
they say that it is illegal for a non-instructor pilot to fly in the
right seat with a non-pilot in the left seat.


In the United States, there is no regulation as far as I know that dictates
what seat the Pilot In Command must utilize, except that it must be a control
seat, which I take to mean a seat with controls. Nothing I am aware of
prevents a pilot from flying solo in the right seat, the front seat, the back
seat, or even a passenger seat (with strings attached to the yoke).

I believe the author is incorrect.

Jose


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Teacherjh wrote:
In the United States, there is no regulation as far as I know that
dictates
what seat the Pilot In Command must utilize, except that it must be a
control
seat, which I take to mean a seat with controls.

To which FAR are you referring?

Hilton

except that it must be a control
seat, which I take to mean a seat with controls.

To which FAR are you referring?


Oh, you're gonna make me look it up. I find:
91.105 (flight crewmembers at stations). It does not mention "control seat"; I
must have misremembered that. But it does imply that it must be a "station",
by which I take it they mean a seat designed for and intended for a pilot or
appropriate crewmember. I don't think the FAA would go for the idea that the
passenger seat in the third row of a saratoga consititues a "station".

Jose




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Teacherjh wrote:

except that it must be a control
seat, which I take to mean a seat with controls.

To which FAR are you referring?


Oh, you're gonna make me look it up. I find:
91.105 (flight crewmembers at stations). It does not mention "control
seat"; I
must have misremembered that. But it does imply that it must be a
"station",
by which I take it they mean a seat designed for and intended for a pilot
or
appropriate crewmember. I don't think the FAA would go for the idea that
the
passenger seat in the third row of a saratoga consititues a "station".

Jose,

OK, I was looking at 91.105 too, but thought there may have been an
additional requirement somewhere else. Since it does not say "control
seat", I believe the PIC therefore is not required to be at a control seat.
Heavy iron pilots - correct me if I'm wrong, but the PIC of a 747 can ACT
and LOG PIC while sleeping in his bed. Am I correct?

Hilton

"Hilton" wrote
Heavy iron pilots - correct me if I'm wrong, but the PIC of a
747 can ACT and LOG PIC while sleeping in his bed. Am I correct?


You are correct!

Bob Moore

Hilton wrote:
Teacherjh wrote:

except that it must be a control
seat, which I take to mean a seat with controls.

To which FAR are you referring?


Oh, you're gonna make me look it up. I find:
91.105 (flight crewmembers at stations). It does not mention "control

seat"; I

must have misremembered that. But it does imply that it must be a

"station",

by which I take it they mean a seat designed for and intended for a pilot

or

appropriate crewmember. I don't think the FAA would go for the idea that

the

passenger seat in the third row of a saratoga consititues a "station".


Jose,

OK, I was looking at 91.105 too, but thought there may have been an
additional requirement somewhere else. Since it does not say "control
seat", I believe the PIC therefore is not required to be at a control seat.
Heavy iron pilots - correct me if I'm wrong, but the PIC of a 747 can ACT
and LOG PIC while sleeping in his bed. Am I correct?

Hilton



I believe this applies only to the ATP certficate, which a 747 captain
certainly would hold.


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote in
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I believe this applies only to the ATP certficate, which a
747 captain certainly would hold.

No, it applies to any pilot with a certificate other than
recreational, piloting an aircraft which requires more than one
pilot, either by type certificate or the regulations under which
it is operating. Part 61.51 (e) (iii).

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Regards,

Stan

(Teacherjh) wrote in
:

In the United States, there is no regulation as far as I
know that dictates what seat the Pilot In Command must
utilize, except that it must be a control seat, which I
take to mean a seat with controls. Nothing I am aware of
prevents a pilot from flying solo in the right seat, the
front seat, the back seat, or even a passenger seat (with
strings attached to the yoke).

Some aircraft have such limitations. The aircraft I usually fly
(BH412 and SK76) limit solo flight (or flight with one pilot) to
the right seat. If such a requirement is in the flight manual
limitations section, it's a legal requirement.

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Regards,

Stan

When I was working on my CFI rating I woudl put my student pilot in
the left seat because I didn't have brakes on the right side. The FSDO
said the person working the brakes didn't need any certification (of
course I was responsible for ensuring he knew how to work them). I did
not try to give him instruction.

BTW: I had to write a letter to my insurance company. If you don't
notify them that you are flying left seat and you put someone else in
the left, they will likely believe the left seat was the flying pilot.
My agent said the warning letter fixes this.



(Teacherjh) wrote in message ...

In the third paragraph
they say that it is illegal for a non-instructor pilot to fly in the
right seat with a non-pilot in the left seat.


In the United States, there is no regulation as far as I know that dictates
what seat the Pilot In Command must utilize, except that it must be a control
seat, which I take to mean a seat with controls. Nothing I am aware of
prevents a pilot from flying solo in the right seat, the front seat, the back
seat, or even a passenger seat (with strings attached to the yoke).

I believe the author is incorrect.

Jose

(Robert M. Gary) wrote in message . com...
When I was working on my CFI rating I woudl put my student pilot in
the left seat because I didn't have brakes on the right side. The FSDO
said the person working the brakes didn't need any certification (of
course I was responsible for ensuring he knew how to work them). I did
not try to give him instruction.

BTW: I had to write a letter to my insurance company. If you don't
notify them that you are flying left seat and you put someone else in
the left, they will likely believe the left seat was the flying pilot.
My agent said the warning letter fixes this.

exactly. spot on.




(Teacherjh) wrote in message ...

In the third paragraph
they say that it is illegal for a non-instructor pilot to fly in the
right seat with a non-pilot in the left seat.


In the United States, there is no regulation as far as I know that dictates
what seat the Pilot In Command must utilize, except that it must be a control
seat, which I take to mean a seat with controls. Nothing I am aware of
prevents a pilot from flying solo in the right seat, the front seat, the back
seat, or even a passenger seat (with strings attached to the yoke).

I believe the author is incorrect.

Jose