Lonely up there?

In a previous article, "Peter R." said:
I do that a lot in the Northeast while flying IFR, since normally even the
airspace over central and western NY state is relatively active, but once
in awhile it does goes quiet.

I especially get that "it's quiet - too quiet" feeling when flying
through Wheeler Sack airspace coming back from Ottawa on a Sunday night.


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And on the seventh day, He exited from append mode.

In a previous article, (Paul Tomblin) said:
In a previous article, "Peter R." said:
I do that a lot in the Northeast while flying IFR, since normally even the
airspace over central and western NY state is relatively active, but once
in awhile it does goes quiet.

I especially get that "it's quiet - too quiet" feeling when flying
through Wheeler Sack airspace coming back from Ottawa on a Sunday night.

When I'm heading up to Ottawa, though, sometimes I have to call Wheeler
Sack to remind them that they're supposed to give me a re-route (you can't
file a flight plan with CYRIL in the US, but as you're approaching the ART
VOR they give you a re-route to fly to CYRIL and then execute the CYRIL
ONE arrival).


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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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When I'm heading up to Ottawa, though, sometimes I have to call Wheeler
Sack to remind them that they're supposed to give me a re-route (you can't
file a flight plan with CYRIL in the US, but as you're approaching the ART
VOR they give you a re-route to fly to CYRIL and then execute the CYRIL
ONE arrival).


You can file a flight plan with CYRIL in the US. Who said you couldn't?

In a previous article, "Steven P. McNicoll" said:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...

When I'm heading up to Ottawa, though, sometimes I have to call Wheeler
Sack to remind them that they're supposed to give me a re-route (you can't
file a flight plan with CYRIL in the US, but as you're approaching the ART
VOR they give you a re-route to fly to CYRIL and then execute the CYRIL
ONE arrival).


You can file a flight plan with CYRIL in the US. Who said you couldn't?

Buffalo FSS. Every time I try, they say it's not in their computer. I
can't do it in DUATS either.

"Invalid route element identifier CYRIL
OLAB quickpath command did not finish successfully
Parameter 9: 'V2 KONDO ART CYRIL' is invalid"



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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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Buffalo FSS. Every time I try, they say it's not in their computer. I
can't do it in DUATS either.


Fixes are filed regularly that aren't stored in some facility's computer.
Fixes can be filed that don't even exist, you just have to know how to
satisfy the computer.



"Invalid route element identifier CYRIL
OLAB quickpath command did not finish successfully
Parameter 9: 'V2 KONDO ART CYRIL' is invalid"


CYRIL is not stored so the computer doesn't know where to go after ART. You
just need to file something between ART and CYRIL that the computer can
process. The simplest would be the coordinates of CYRIL. File 'V2 KONDO
ART 4458/7518 CYRIL' next time. The computer then has something after ART
it can work with and it doesn't care what comes after that.

In a previous article, "Steven P. McNicoll" said:
"Invalid route element identifier CYRIL
OLAB quickpath command did not finish successfully
Parameter 9: 'V2 KONDO ART CYRIL' is invalid"


CYRIL is not stored so the computer doesn't know where to go after ART. You
just need to file something between ART and CYRIL that the computer can
process. The simplest would be the coordinates of CYRIL. File 'V2 KONDO
ART 4458/7518 CYRIL' next time. The computer then has something after ART
it can work with and it doesn't care what comes after that.

Invalid route element identifier CYRIL

OLAB quickpath command did not finish successfully
Parameter 9: 'V2 KONDO ART 4458/7518 CYRIL' is invalid


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that was sticking up your ass.
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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Invalid route element identifier CYRIL

OLAB quickpath command did not finish successfully
Parameter 9: 'V2 KONDO ART 4458/7518 CYRIL' is invalid


The Flight Data Processing computer will accept that route.

"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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Invalid route element identifier CYRIL

OLAB quickpath command did not finish successfully
Parameter 9: 'V2 KONDO ART 4458/7518 CYRIL' is invalid


Who's OLAB? Why are you even bothering to call a FSS?

I have often been told to switch freq. and then wait for 10 to 15
minutes before trying to contact center. There are large 'radio free'
zones in the north central US. But I always try about every 5 minutes.

Paul Tomblin wrote:

I especially get that "it's quiet - too quiet" feeling

LOL! "It's too quiet in here," as if a murderer is going to pop-up from
the back seat.

--
Peter