Non existent VOR

It must be George Bush's fault, you know that FEMA and
Homeland Security follow President Bush's evil plans. They
must be planning to have Teddy Kennedy fly into the Bermuda
Triangle due to lack of guidance.


"john smith" wrote in message
...
|I flew from Ohio to Florida early this week. The third leg
was from
| Valdosta (KVLD) GA to West Palm Beach (KPBI) FL.
| My originally filed route was amended twice before I got
25 miles. JAX
| Center gave me PHK (Pahokee VOR) as my final fix before
KPBI.
| As I was nearing the east shore of Lake Okeechobee, the
approach
| controller asked me if I was going direct to some
intersection.
| I responded that I was flying direct PHK.
| He then told me PHK had disappeared in one of the
hurricanes last year.
| I told him that I was going to ask if any had reported
that the VOR was
| out of service, as I had not been receiving any signal on
the nav
| receiver.
| There was no NOTAM in any of my briefings, center gave me
an amended
| clearance with the fix included, and it is charted on the
new charts
| (IFR and Sectionals).
| Only the local controllers told seem to know the navaid
did not exist.
| This one gets a NASA Form 277.

In article DzEXf.7492$t22.6504@dukeread08,
"Jim Macklin" wrote:

It must be George Bush's fault, you know that FEMA and
Homeland Security follow President Bush's evil plans. They
must be planning to have Teddy Kennedy fly into the Bermuda
Triangle due to lack of guidance.


well, at least that would be safer than expecting Ted to
drive there.

:-/

--
Bob Noel
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lawyers will hate

Jim Macklin wrote:
It must be George Bush's fault, you know that FEMA and
Homeland Security follow President Bush's evil plans. They
must be planning to have Teddy Kennedy fly into the Bermuda
Triangle due to lack of guidance.

You Bushies love to use sarcasm to defend King George.

He had an evil plan but it wasn't Homeland Security or Katrina.~

His evil plan was committing this country to a folly in Iraq that was
bleed the federal treasury dry. Pretty much everyone agrees that we are
now stuck there and bleeding literally and fiscally.

That's why King George couldn't do any better with Katrina than he did.
I have no doubt he would have done better had there been any
money left.

When you GA guys start paying users' fees, keep in mind that is King
George at work, too.

In article ckFXf.14864$6a1.2932@fed1read04, Sam Spade
wrote:

When you GA guys start paying users' fees, keep in mind that is King
George at work, too.

you mean the user fees pushed during Clinton/Gore?

oops. Sorry, didn't mean to inject actual fact into any anti-Bush subthread.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Bob Noel wrote:
In article ckFXf.14864$6a1.2932@fed1read04, Sam Spade
wrote:


When you GA guys start paying users' fees, keep in mind that is King
George at work, too.


you mean the user fees pushed during Clinton/Gore?

oops. Sorry, didn't mean to inject actual fact into any anti-Bush subthread.

Sure, those Demo boys knew the country was overextended, so they floated
that concept.

And, I agree, had Gore been elected rather than Bush in 2000 user fees
*may* have come to pass sooner.

But, they will come to pass under King George, because we now have no
choice.

Yes, I am anti-Bush, and I didn't like Gore either.

King George has expanded federal spending and the deficient beyond the
wildest dreams of the tax-and-spend lefties.

In article YEGXf.14873$6a1.3816@fed1read04, Sam Spade
wrote:

King George has expanded federal spending and the deficient beyond the
wildest dreams of the tax-and-spend lefties.

The President doesn't appropriate money. Try to learn what branch of
the Federal government does what...

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Bob Noel wrote:
In article YEGXf.14873$6a1.3816@fed1read04, Sam Spade
wrote:

King George has expanded federal spending and the deficient beyond the
wildest dreams of the tax-and-spend lefties.

The President doesn't appropriate money. Try to learn what branch of
the Federal government does what...

And Government policy is not decided by popularity polls or loud
expressions of pain and discomfort. Further, childish disrespect for
the President is unlikely to accomplish anything.

Bob Noel wrote:
In article YEGXf.14873$6a1.3816@fed1read04, Sam Spade
wrote:


King George has expanded federal spending and the deficient beyond the
wildest dreams of the tax-and-spend lefties.


The President doesn't appropriate money. Try to learn what branch of
the Federal government does what...

Oh, you mean the Consititutional mandate that Congress must *approve*
appropriation bills?

Who submits those appropriations for the most part, and who provides the
leadership for discretionary spending?

Again, your sarcasm shows more heat than light.

Congress invaded Iraq?

For many years, Congress always said that the President's
budget was "dead on arrival" because they never followed it.

The mandate is that all tax bills must begin in the House,
the President is supposed to submit a proposed budget and
the Senate confirms appointments and treaties.

One of the charges against R.M. Nixon was that he refused to
spend all the money that Congress appropriated, he exercised
administrative powers. So as part of the post-Watergate
"reforms" Congress wrote the law on the budget and President
Ford, a long term member of Congress signed it into law.
The change in the budget process exactly coincides with the
run-away national debt and increasing deficit spending. The
change, all budget items are expected to increase 10% per
year so 110% become the base amount. This is baseline
budgeting.

Also, the President is REQUIRED by law to spend every dime
Congress appropriates, he has only one administrative power,
he can veto a bill. This failure of George Bush, and his
signing of McCain-Fiengold, may be his worst failures as
President.

Look at the books that have graphs of the Federal debt and
note that the debt was level from the end of WWII to the
Viet Nam war, with just spikes, but after Watergate the
budget, debt and spending went nearly straight up.


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"Sam Spade" wrote in message
news:KlPXf.14898$6a1.12239@fed1read04...
| Bob Noel wrote:
| In article YEGXf.14873$6a1.3816@fed1read04, Sam Spade

| wrote:
|
|
| King George has expanded federal spending and the
deficient beyond the
| wildest dreams of the tax-and-spend lefties.
|
|
| The President doesn't appropriate money. Try to learn
what branch of
| the Federal government does what...
|
| Oh, you mean the Consititutional mandate that Congress
must *approve*
| appropriation bills?
|
| Who submits those appropriations for the most part, and
who provides the
| leadership for discretionary spending?
|
| Again, your sarcasm shows more heat than light.
|
| Congress invaded Iraq?

But this time Mary Jo Kopechne gets to drive, er, fly.

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
newszEXf.7492$t22.6504@dukeread08...
It must be George Bush's fault, you know that FEMA and
Homeland Security follow President Bush's evil plans. They
must be planning to have Teddy Kennedy fly into the Bermuda
Triangle due to lack of guidance.


"john smith" wrote in message
...
|I flew from Ohio to Florida early this week. The third leg