engine failure

too late, and you're right--it was a mistake
Aluckyguess wrote:
Wow! That was a interesting flight. I don't think I would tell the wife.

On 2006-06-07, Capt.Doug wrote:
cabin is small and noisy. The fly-over noise is loud. I got rid of it and
bought another Aztec.

You can say that again. We have a C337 up at our airfield now, and the
noise complaints are coming. The owner had to move from his own land
because he was generating excessive noise complaints (it doesn't help
that he flies in a rather unneighbourly manner - advancing the props to
fine on downwind and directly overflying noise sensitive areas that are
easy to avoid).

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The second engine is very handy, and I like the in-line aspect, at
least in this case.

One interesting thing about this emergency--my autopilot wouldn't work
after the electrical failure, so I had to pump the gear down and fly
the plane at the same time. When the gear came out, the increased drag
caused a loss of airspeed, and I dropped below "blue line" for a short
while. That's not really a problem in the 337, but if I had been in a
conventional light twin, that might have been disastrous. I found it
hard to manually fly the plane, holding course, altitude, airspeed, etc
and bend over and pump the gear down at the same time.

three-eight-hotel wrote:
Glad to hear you were able to land safely! That second engine sure can
come in handy, in a pinch, ehhh?

Best Regards,
Todd

On 2006-06-08, swag wrote:
caused a loss of airspeed, and I dropped below "blue line" for a short
while. That's not really a problem in the 337, but if I had been in a
conventional light twin, that might have been disastrous.

Dropping below blue line in a conventional twin has exactly the same
consequences as dropping below blue line in a C337. I think you are
thinking about red line (which is something a C337 won't have)

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"swag" writes:

[...] When the gear came out, the increased drag caused a loss of
airspeed, and I dropped below "blue line" for a short while. That's
not really a problem in the 337, but if I had been in a conventional
light twin, that might have been disastrous. [...]

You are probably mixing up the red (Vmc) & blue (Vyse) lines. Still,
neither is that bad if one has some altitude to spare and avoids being
hamfisted with the throttle.

- FChE

The landing gear doors on the C337 and the C210 models with
doors, open like big flat plate air-brakes. The gear is
best left down and locked if you have an engine failure
below 500 feet.




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"Frank Ch. Eigler" wrote in message
...
|
| "swag" writes:
|
| [...] When the gear came out, the increased drag caused
a loss of
| airspeed, and I dropped below "blue line" for a short
while. That's
| not really a problem in the 337, but if I had been in a
conventional
| light twin, that might have been disastrous. [...]
|
| You are probably mixing up the red (Vmc) & blue (Vyse)
lines. Still,
| neither is that bad if one has some altitude to spare and
avoids being
| hamfisted with the throttle.
|
| - FChE

you're right about the def's of blue line and red line. I guess I was
just trying to make the point that pumping the gear down in the pattern
adds another potential problem to the scenario that might be magnified
by off center thrust. It would feel more comfortable to be above
pattern altitude, but I didn't feel like I had the luxury to climb and
take my time. I probably did...but my fuel guages went to zero when I
lost electrical, and although I "knew" I had over 40 gallons of fuel
left, I was really too nervous about everything to choose the best
course of action-- which would have been to circle up over the airport
to maybe 3000 agl and then pump the gear down. (If my fuel guages were
right and a bad fuel leak had developed I would still be ok if I was in
gliding distance of the airport)

Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
"swag" writes:

[...] When the gear came out, the increased drag caused a loss of
airspeed, and I dropped below "blue line" for a short while. That's
not really a problem in the 337, but if I had been in a conventional
light twin, that might have been disastrous. [...]

You are probably mixing up the red (Vmc) & blue (Vyse) lines. Still,
neither is that bad if one has some altitude to spare and avoids being
hamfisted with the throttle.

- FChE