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Old October 12th 04, 11:40 AM
Paul Tomblin
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In a previous article, "Brad Salai" said:
I'm still studying for the rating, so I've never done this, but can't you
just say "no SIDS, no STARS" in the remarks, and they can't give it to you.


If they want you along the STAR, then all this will mean is that you will
have to copy and read back a full route clearance (which will look
suspiciously like the textual description of the STAR) instead of the name
of the STAR.

I've never understood why anybody would want to say "no SIDS, no STARS"
(or more correctly now, "no DPs, no STARS"?) unless they want practice
copying and reading back full route clearances.

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Old October 12th 04, 01:08 PM
Peter MacPherson
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I think it's because they have a misconception that they won't be
given the DP/STAR if they put "No DP/No STAR" in the comments
section. I think if they realized they were going to get it anyway,
they wouldn't do it.


"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
In a previous article, "Brad Salai" said:
I'm still studying for the rating, so I've never done this, but can't you
just say "no SIDS, no STARS" in the remarks, and they can't give it to
you.


If they want you along the STAR, then all this will mean is that you will
have to copy and read back a full route clearance (which will look
suspiciously like the textual description of the STAR) instead of the name
of the STAR.

I've never understood why anybody would want to say "no SIDS, no STARS"
(or more correctly now, "no DPs, no STARS"?) unless they want practice
copying and reading back full route clearances.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"An appointment is an engagement to see someone, while a morningstar is a
large lump of metal used for viciously crushing skulls. It is important
not
to confuse the two, isn't it, Mr. --?" - Terry Pratchett



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Old October 12th 04, 05:13 PM
zatatime
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:40:29 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

I've never understood why anybody would want to say "no SIDS, no STARS"



Before they were incorporated into the approach plates you had to buy
a separate SID/STAR book. Some people didn't do it because it cost
more (which is silly), and my home base didn't carry them.

HTH.
z
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Old October 15th 04, 05:48 PM
Robert M. Gary
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(Paul Tomblin) wrote in message ...
In a previous article, "Brad Salai" said:
I'm still studying for the rating, so I've never done this, but can't you
just say "no SIDS, no STARS" in the remarks, and they can't give it to you.


If they want you along the STAR, then all this will mean is that you will
have to copy and read back a full route clearance (which will look
suspiciously like the textual description of the STAR) instead of the name
of the STAR.

I've never understood why anybody would want to say "no SIDS, no STARS"
(or more correctly now, "no DPs, no STARS"?) unless they want practice
copying and reading back full route clearances.


They used to cost extra.

-Robert
 




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