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Old August 11th 06, 04:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Andrew Sarangan[_1_]
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gregscheetah wrote:
A recent flight planning software package I am trying creates a single
flight plan - say from DSM to Jeffco. Even tho there is a fuel stop in
KLBF, about midway. This is what it wants to file with DUATS.

My question is: I have always thought it was necessary to file two
flight plans - one DSM to KLBF and another KLBF to Jeffco. Is this
necessary? Or can I file a single flight plan? Is the Voyager
software making a mistake?

Thanks,


If you are on IFR flight plan and you stop to get fuel, the whole
airport will be shutdown for IFR operations until you get back in the
air. I've heard this being done by freight carriers who stop for a
couple of minutes to drop off a package and be on their way. There was
an article about this on IFR magazine some time ago. You file a flight
plan with a 'through stop' (I am not sure of the exact term). The same
article also mentioned that ATC will not normally approve these stops
except at remote airports where other IFR traffic is less likely.

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Old August 11th 06, 07:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Robert M. Gary
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If you are on IFR flight plan and you stop to get fuel, the whole
airport will be shutdown for IFR operations until you get back in the
air.


Assuming no tower.

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Old August 12th 06, 06:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
oups.com...

If you are on IFR flight plan and you stop to get fuel, the whole
airport will be shutdown for IFR operations until you get back in the
air.


Assuming no tower.


There's no point in issuing a through clearance at a controlled airport.


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Old August 14th 06, 02:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
gregscheetah
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:


Assuming no tower.


There's no point in issuing a through clearance at a controlled airport.



I agree with everyone that suggests just filing two flight plans. BUT
the voyager flight planning software doesn't do that. It files one -
even after it clearly understands that the aircraft is landing at a
midpoint airport for fuel.
I like the Voyager flight software because I originally thought that it
does allow one to plan the entire flight and then insert fuel stops as
needed. Previous software (AOPA) required me to plan the whole flight,
determine fuel stops required, and then plan two or more additional
flight plans for each fuel leg.

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Old August 11th 06, 10:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
A Lieberma
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Default IFR flight plan with multiple stops

"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in
You file a flight
plan with a 'through stop' (I am not sure of the exact term). The same
article also mentioned that ATC will not normally approve these stops
except at remote airports where other IFR traffic is less likely.


It's called a "pass through" clearance. I did this once and it worked
great, but I landed in podunct MS for fuel and the frequency traffic was
quiet.

I had filed to seperate plans for each leg. As I got closer to my
intermediary stop, I asked center if they had my next flight plan in the
system.

After confirming they did, I asked if they could give me a pass through
clearance for fuel stop.

My request was approved with a void time, clearance void if not off in....
I kept my squawk, got my fuel and launched back up in the blue wild yonder
and recontacted center.

Worked great for me the one time I used it. I have requested it on other
occaisions and I got "unable" so it's clearly a workload consideration and
controller choice.

Allen
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Old August 11th 06, 11:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"A Lieberma" wrote in message
8...

It's called a "pass through" clearance.


It's just called a "through clearance".


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Old August 12th 06, 07:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Greg Esres
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It's just called a "through clearance".

Does it sound like that he actually got a "through clearance"? The
phraseology doesn't match what's in the .65. Sounds to me he just
picked up a new IFR clearance in the air.


 




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