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![]() "Emily" wrote in message ... Mxsmanic wrote: Peter R. writes: A leading cause of accidents? Where did you get this statistic? From the NTSB and several books on the subject. Guess? If a pilot or controller is not able to comprehend the other side's transmission, there is no guess. "Say again?" is the phrase of choice and it is used all over the frequencies. It's routine in linguistics to unconsciously guess. A person listening to familiar sounds in a familiar context will "fill in the blanks" for any sounds that cannot be unambiguously distinguished, and he will do this without thinking. If he guesses wrong, trouble can result, and accidents have happened in aviation for this reason (the most famous probably being the one at Tenerife). Actually, in the Tenerife accident, the only radio problem was caused by simultaneous radio transmissions by aircraft, NOT a pilot hearing want he wanted to hear. The tower told the KLM aircraft to stand by at the same time the Pan Am aircraft transmitted, which resulted in a blocking of both transmissions. There were many other steps in the accident chain, but Tenerife was most certainly not caused by a pilot hearing what he wanted to hear. Correct, and FM would not have solved any of the problems. At least with AM the heterodyne lets people know there were multiple simultaneous transmissions. The capture characteristics of FM do away with this sometimes useful feature. |
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Dave Stadt wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message ... Mxsmanic wrote: Peter R. writes: A leading cause of accidents? Where did you get this statistic? From the NTSB and several books on the subject. Guess? If a pilot or controller is not able to comprehend the other side's transmission, there is no guess. "Say again?" is the phrase of choice and it is used all over the frequencies. It's routine in linguistics to unconsciously guess. A person listening to familiar sounds in a familiar context will "fill in the blanks" for any sounds that cannot be unambiguously distinguished, and he will do this without thinking. If he guesses wrong, trouble can result, and accidents have happened in aviation for this reason (the most famous probably being the one at Tenerife). Actually, in the Tenerife accident, the only radio problem was caused by simultaneous radio transmissions by aircraft, NOT a pilot hearing want he wanted to hear. The tower told the KLM aircraft to stand by at the same time the Pan Am aircraft transmitted, which resulted in a blocking of both transmissions. There were many other steps in the accident chain, but Tenerife was most certainly not caused by a pilot hearing what he wanted to hear. Correct, and FM would not have solved any of the problems. At least with AM the heterodyne lets people know there were multiple simultaneous transmissions. The capture characteristics of FM do away with this sometimes useful feature. I think it's very useful. As annoying as it is to have someone out there with a stuck mic, what would happen if messages were stepped on and we didn't know it? |
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