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Old November 24th 04, 08:16 PM
smackey
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Thanks for all the feedback. It has been helpful. Yes, we do get
some good xwinds here; todays winds aloft here are projected at 49k at
9000, 35k at 6000.
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Old November 25th 04, 05:42 PM
Gene Whitt
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Jose,
The 90/270 has a tremendous advantage when making turns and remembering
where to turn.

The system is called the 'sum of the digits'

Take any number of the heading indicator and add all three of
its digits and keep adding until you get a single digit.

Example #1 030 = 3
Example #2 290 = 11 = 2

The sum of the digits every 90-degrees all the way around the dial will
equal 3 or 2 in both cases. It works for every number on both
the 90-degree numbers and 45-degree numbers.
Example #1
030 = 3; 120 = 3; 210= 3; 300 = 3
Example #2
290 = 11 = 2; 020= 2; 110 = 2; 200= 2

Works all the time everytime.
Gene


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Old November 25th 04, 06:31 PM
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"Gene Whitt" wrote in message
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Jose,
The 90/270 has a tremendous advantage when making turns and remembering
where to turn.

The system is called the 'sum of the digits'

Take any number of the heading indicator and add all three of
its digits and keep adding until you get a single digit.

Example #1 030 = 3
Example #2 290 = 11 = 2

The sum of the digits every 90-degrees all the way around the dial will
equal 3 or 2 in both cases. It works for every number on both
the 90-degree numbers and 45-degree numbers.
Example #1
030 = 3; 120 = 3; 210= 3; 300 = 3
Example #2
290 = 11 = 2; 020= 2; 110 = 2; 200= 2


I'm not following you, Gene. I know that the sum of the digits trick is a
quick way to determine if something is divisible by three, but how does that
tell you the 90 and 270 degree headings?


Works all the time everytime.
Gene




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Old November 26th 04, 05:13 AM
Jose
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The 90/270 has a tremendous advantage when making turns and remembering
where to turn.

The system is called the 'sum of the digits'

Take any number of the heading indicator and add all three of
its digits and keep adding until you get a single digit... (math snipped)



Cool piece of math (even more interesting =why= it works, and how it translates into other bases). However, to find my entry, I just look at the DG
and pick the number that's off to the side. I turn there, then turn opposite onto the course. No math needed. The ten degrees one way or another
doesn't make any difference.

Jose
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Old November 26th 04, 10:21 PM
Judah
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Jose wrote in
. com:

The 90/270 has a tremendous advantage when making turns and
remembering where to turn.

The system is called the 'sum of the digits'

Take any number of the heading indicator and add all three of
its digits and keep adding until you get a single digit... (math
snipped)



Cool piece of math (even more interesting =why= it works, and how it
translates into other bases). However, to find my entry, I just look
at the DG and pick the number that's off to the side. I turn there,
then turn opposite onto the course. No math needed. The ten degrees
one way or another doesn't make any difference.

Jose


Because you're adding 90 to the numbers each time, and our math system is
10-based. If you add 9 to any number in a 10 based system, you are adding
1 to the 10's digit, and subtracting 1 from the 1's digit. The result is
if yo uadd the new digits, they will equal out.

It's easier to see if you take a single digit number, add 9, and add the
digits... It will illustrate the same point.


1 + 9 = 10 1+0 = 1
2 + 9 = 11 1+1 = 2
3 + 9 = 12 1+2 = 3

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Old November 26th 04, 10:34 PM
Roy Smith
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In article ,
Judah wrote:

Jose wrote in
. com:

The 90/270 has a tremendous advantage when making turns and
remembering where to turn.

The system is called the 'sum of the digits'

Take any number of the heading indicator and add all three of
its digits and keep adding until you get a single digit... (math
snipped)



Cool piece of math (even more interesting =why= it works, and how it
translates into other bases). However, to find my entry, I just look
at the DG and pick the number that's off to the side. I turn there,
then turn opposite onto the course. No math needed. The ten degrees
one way or another doesn't make any difference.

Jose


Because you're adding 90 to the numbers each time, and our math system is
10-based. If you add 9 to any number in a 10 based system, you are adding
1 to the 10's digit, and subtracting 1 from the 1's digit. The result is
if yo uadd the new digits, they will equal out.

It's easier to see if you take a single digit number, add 9, and add the
digits... It will illustrate the same point.


1 + 9 = 10 1+0 = 1
2 + 9 = 11 1+1 = 2
3 + 9 = 12 1+2 = 3


I used to know enough math to be able to solve differential equations
(well, the easy ones anyway), but when I'm flying an airplane in the
clouds, I don't want to waste any of my limited and precious remaining
neurons on subtraction.

The way I make a 90 degree turn is:

1) Move the heading bug until it's pointing sideways.

2) Turn the plane until the heading bug is pointing upright again.
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Old November 27th 04, 01:11 PM
Judah
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I absolutely agree... I was just answering the question of why the math
"trick" works.

In flight I can't think about Math - I have to concentrate on things like
remembering whether I am coming from the East or the West!




Roy Smith wrote in
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In article ,
Judah wrote:

Jose wrote in
. com:

The 90/270 has a tremendous advantage when making turns and
remembering where to turn.

The system is called the 'sum of the digits'

Take any number of the heading indicator and add all three of
its digits and keep adding until you get a single digit... (math
snipped)


Cool piece of math (even more interesting =why= it works, and how it
translates into other bases). However, to find my entry, I just
look at the DG and pick the number that's off to the side. I turn
there, then turn opposite onto the course. No math needed. The ten
degrees one way or another doesn't make any difference.

Jose


Because you're adding 90 to the numbers each time, and our math system
is 10-based. If you add 9 to any number in a 10 based system, you are
adding 1 to the 10's digit, and subtracting 1 from the 1's digit. The
result is if yo uadd the new digits, they will equal out.

It's easier to see if you take a single digit number, add 9, and add
the digits... It will illustrate the same point.


1 + 9 = 10 1+0 = 1
2 + 9 = 11 1+1 = 2 3 + 9 = 12 1+2 = 3


I used to know enough math to be able to solve differential equations
(well, the easy ones anyway), but when I'm flying an airplane in the
clouds, I don't want to waste any of my limited and precious remaining
neurons on subtraction.

The way I make a 90 degree turn is:

1) Move the heading bug until it's pointing sideways.

2) Turn the plane until the heading bug is pointing upright again.


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Old November 27th 04, 01:27 PM
Roy Smith
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In article ,
Judah wrote:

I absolutely agree... I was just answering the question of why the math
"trick" works.

In flight I can't think about Math - I have to concentrate on things like
remembering whether I am coming from the East or the West!


Oh, that's easy. Fly at 4500 and call up ATC for flight following. If
he yells at you about your altitude, you know you're coming from the
West.
 




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