Soreness after flights, and rudders

T o d d P a t t i s t writes:

The latter. The leg is nearly fully extended when in the
reclined to semi-reclined flying position of a glider.

If you are semi-reclined, how do you enjoy the view (I assume that
enjoying the view is an important part of gliding?)?

It's a
common problem for glider pilots when under stress. In a
perfect world, you'd be cool, relaxed and fly perfectly,
ignoring the fact that you were a hundred miles from home,
and it was raining in bands, and the thermals were dying.

I take it there is no such thing as IFR glider flight.

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T o d d P a t t i s t wrote:
I take it there is no such thing as IFR glider flight.

You'd take it wrong. It's less common in the U.S. than
elsewhere in the world, but still perfectly legal with the
right ratings and equipment. Climbing in clouds, and
occasionally even thunderstorms is part of soaring.


Well, hell, I've climbed in thunderstorms myself. Didn't want to, but I did.
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Mxsmanic wrote:
So how do they work? You have to extend your foot (press the toes
forward) to apply the brakes, right? Which in turn implies that you
might have to deliberately hold the tip of your foot back in order to
avoid applying the brakes. I've always wondered about that.

Unless your feet are more than about 15" you can't reach the brakes
with your heals on the floor. When you need the brakes you simply slide
your feet up the peddle to hit the brake and then come back down.

I used to fly an Aeronca with a heal brake and a puck tailwheel. About
1/2 the landings required brake to stay aligned (since the puck has
such little friction with the ground), but the heal brake is basically
either on or off. You so straighten a landing out by "pumping" the heal
brake to avoid over braking. It was certainly better than the J-3
though. I always flew with slippers because that is the only way I
could wrap my feet around the top of the rudder to reach the brake. I
kept real shoes in the back in case I had to land somewhere.

-Robert

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes:

You probaby don't want to have your foot on the brake on the ground
unless you actually mean to use the brake. I teach my students to taxi
with their feet flat on the floor because they would otherwise always
drag the brakes during taxi.

Is it possible to apply the brakes with your heels on the floor?

No, but it takes no effort to slide your feet up. Students will try to
ride the brakes otherwise. That's one of the things we CFIs are always
looking for during taxi.

One thing that I do is unless I need the brakes, my feet are placed such
that the balls of my feet are on the bottom part of the pedal and my heels
are on the floor, especially on final and takeoff. Reason I say especially
on final, as I noticed if I was kind of high and needed to slow down, for
some reason I would push on the brakes, like they would do something, NOT!
But, I would always release the brakes before touchdown. So, to make sure I
don't land inadvertantly with the brakes on (instant flat spot on the main
tires), and taking off with partial brakes applied is obviously something
you don't want to do... So I changed to fly with just the balls of my feet
on the bottom of the rudder pedal, and actually found this more comfortable,
and when I need the brakes I slide my feet up the pedals and push on the
brakes.

The CH pedals have lip bottom of the pedal so that you can't do this. Pedal
in airplanes don't have this lip. I found the CH pedals are not very
comfortable.

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 10:20:33 -0800, "Wade Hasbrouck"
wrote:

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes:

You probaby don't want to have your foot on the brake on the ground
unless you actually mean to use the brake. I teach my students to taxi
with their feet flat on the floor because they would otherwise always

Flat on the floor? How do the airplane know where it's supposed to
go?:-))

drag the brakes during taxi.

Is it possible to apply the brakes with your heels on the floor?

No, but it takes no effort to slide your feet up. Students will try to

That depends on the airplane. :-)) On 150s and 172s it's easy, on
mine it's not. On mine you need to have your feet in position for the
roll out if there is any cross wind as you will not be sliding them
into position. The only way I can get my toe move up to the brake in
that case is to completely remove my foot from the rudder pedal which
can be highly inconvenient :-)) I'm not sure about Cherokees with
toe brakes. The 180 I flew had both mechanical flaps and a hand
actuated brake lever.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 10:20:33 -0800, "Wade Hasbrouck"
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes:

You probaby don't want to have your foot on the brake on the ground
unless you actually mean to use the brake. I teach my students to
taxi
with their feet flat on the floor because they would otherwise always

Flat on the floor? How do the airplane know where it's supposed to
go?:-))


Personally, I'd like to see that demonstrated in a Pitts...

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Wade Hasbrouck writes:

The CH pedals have lip bottom of the pedal so that you can't do this. Pedal
in airplanes don't have this lip. I found the CH pedals are not very
comfortable.

So do Saitek pedals. I've been wondering if the pedals of real
aircraft are the same, but from what you say, it sounds as though they
usually are not.

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