Can MSFS Kill you?

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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That is just as stupid a decision in MSFS as it is in real life

Wow!

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Steve Foley writes:

"The instructor noted that the accident pilot had been practicing the
flight
route to New Orleans using a Microsoft Flight Simulator 2000 program, on
his
personal computer. "

I guess he didn't practice enough. Or, more specifically, he didn't
practice that specific approach in that particular whether with that
particular malfunction. Perhaps practicing that exact scenario might
have helped him (I'm pretty sure it would have). However, the real
problem was that he allowed himself to get into that situation in the
first place. In the final analysis, MSFS made no difference at all.


Maybe it did. Maybe doing it on MSFS made him THINK he could do it in real
life.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Sure it was over confidence, but did he have that confidence because he
had
read on the internet that flying MSFS was just like real life?

No. He made decisions that had nothing to do with MSFS, such as
continuing to fly longer than necessary even though he had a fuel
problem. That is just as stupid a decision in MSFS as it is in real
life, so even if he had practiced that in MSFS, it would not have made
any difference.


Or maybe he practiced the flight in MSFS and felt he could do it but the
simulator didn't simulate something correctly, like fuel burn.

And your comment that a stupid decision in MSFS is just as stupid as one in
real life is just, well, stupid.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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In the final analysis, MSFS made no difference at all.

Oh. So I guess the NTSB just inclulded that to make it more interesting.

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Or maybe he practiced the flight in MSFS and felt he could do it but the
simulator didn't simulate something correctly, like fuel burn.

As far as I know, MSFS cannot simulate the type of intermittent fuel
system problem he had been having even before the accident flight.
His decision to ignore this problem was his big mistake.

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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Maybe it did. Maybe doing it on MSFS made him THINK he could do it in real
life.

MSFS won't simulate intermittent fuel system failures over multiple
flights. He could not have done it on MSFS.

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Steve Foley writes:

Oh. So I guess the NTSB just inclulded that to make it more interesting.

It included the note because the accident pilot's instructor mentioned
it.

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Steve Foley writes:

Oh. So I guess the NTSB just inclulded that to make it more interesting.

It included the note because the accident pilot's instructor mentioned
it.

Wow (again)

"Nomen Nescio" wrote in message
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First I thought he was just trolling around.

You were right the first time. He's in his favorite waters now with the
'sensations aren't important' to flight arguments. If you recall, that's
what he started with. I guess he's just gone around in a big circle.

Also, if you plug his name into google groups, he has over 120,000 hits.
He's been doing this for a long time, and is very good at it.

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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"Danny Dot" wrote in message
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"Steve Foley" wrote in message
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http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...FA021& akey=1

"The airplane was being operated as an instrument flight rules (IFR)
cross-country personal flight under Title 14, CFR Part 91, when the
accident occurred. The non-instrument rated, solo private-certificated
pilot, sustained fatal injuries"
......
"The flight originated at the New Smyrna Beach Municipal Airport, New
Smyrna Beach, Florida, about 1920 eastern standard time (EST), and was
en route to the Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport, New
Orleans, Louisiana. "
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"The instructor noted that the accident pilot had been practicing the
flight route to New Orleans using a Microsoft Flight Simulator 2000
program, on his personal computer. "

If it gives a private pilot confedence he can fly IFR, I would say it can
kill you. The weather was 100 foot ceiling and 3/4 mile visibility.
This is a very hard approach for ANYONE to make.

I used to own a 35 model Bonanza (the one with the forked tail). The
plane is unstable in roll, very unstable. You look down to get the next
chart and the plane rolls to 45 degrees in a flash. If you do nothing,
roll will increase. It would be VERY easy to loose control of the plane.
He had a J35 model which was made in 1958. I wonder if he had any type
of autopilot. Just a simple wing leveller would help a bunch with the
unstable roll of the plane.

Danny Dot

A gun will kill you as well, if you point it at yourself and pull the
trigger. :-)

I've flown the early V tail Bo quite a bit during my career and never had
trouble in roll. I found the airplane quite stable in all axis. It does
however have a tendency to oscillate in a continuous coupling that can
make the back seat pax sick as hell.
Our line boy hated the airplane. Every time I brought it back from a
charter, he had to clean up the back .
:-)

This is very true of the V-tail Bonanza. Many pasengers get sick.

I liked the roll characteristics myself. Much more responsive in roll than
most light aircraft.

Danny Dot

Dudley Henriques
[MVP] Microsoft Flight Simulator