Flight Following question

"Jim Carter" wrote in news:000601c71c5c$d669dee0$4b01a8c0@omnibook6100:

Do you have any quick references for that Milen? I've never heard of an
IFR flight plan with "VFR" in the enroute altitude box. Or are you
referring to filing VFR-on-top? If so, that's a lot different than just
requesting flight following for VFR flights.

Hey Jim,

Did a little research myself and found the following

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:...&ct=clnk&cd=13

See 1155 A. Flight planning.

Sounds to me that what he is doing is fudging the system by filing an IFR flight plan
and annotating it with VFR references in the remarks.

I know when you select the IFR box, it does generate a flight strip to ATC, and that
would be an IFR filing naturally.

Selecting VFR does not generate a flight strip to ATC, nor is a filing with ATC to obtain an
ATC clearance.

To my knowledge, you don't get clearances on VFR operations EXCEPT for class B entry, take offs and landings.

Canada on the other hand does use ATC flight plan for VFR operations. See

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:... ct=clnk&cd=1

Allen

A Lieberma wrote:



Sounds to me that what he is doing is fudging the system by filing an IFR flight plan
and annotating it with VFR references in the remarks.


No, he puts "VFR" into the altitude box, not in the remarks.




I know when you select the IFR box, it does generate a flight strip to ATC, and that
would be an IFR filing naturally.

Selecting VFR does not generate a flight strip to ATC,


Putting VFR in the altitude box does generate a strip to ATC, 30 minutes
prior to the P time.

Newps wrote in
:

Putting VFR in the altitude box does generate a strip to ATC, 30
minutes prior to the P time.

But he is SELECTING in box 1.type IFR. I was always told that if you
select VFR in box 1, no strip is generated to ATC, thus an IFR filing.

Altutude is box 7 on the FAA flight plan.

Allen

A Lieberma wrote:
Newps wrote in
:


Putting VFR in the altitude box does generate a strip to ATC, 30
minutes prior to the P time.


But he is SELECTING in box 1.type IFR.

Irrelavant for ATC. The altitude box takes precedence.


I was always told that if you
select VFR in box 1, no strip is generated to ATC, thus an IFR filing.

That's true. It's a routing question. We are a regional cargo hub for
UPS and DHL. We have lots of small aircraft running cargo. Twin
Cessnas, Barons, Beech 99's and 1900's, Metroliners, etc. They all have
prefiled IFR flight plans that spit out the same time every day. They
always go VFR when they can, which is about 90% of the time. For those
who's ops specs require flight following we simply change the altitude
on their IFR strip to a VFR one. Change 120 to VFR/125. The altitude
box holds 7 characters. When he tags up on the radar there is now a V
on the tag indicating he is VFR.



Altutude is box 7 on the FAA flight plan.

Same as on the FAA computer controllers use.