bad vectors, no hand off

"Wyatt Emmerich" wrote in
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Controllers forgetting to hand you off to tower is a fairly common
problem in the IFR environment, especially when it's practice. I just
say something like "Should I got to tower" and that usually does the
trick.

*smile*

If I don't get transferred to tower within a couple of miles from the FAF,
I was told by my instructor to "report" my position to appraoch controllers
as a memory jogger that I am still with them.

I.E. Jackson Approach 43L one mile outside Brenz.

Usually, approach will come back and then say 43L, contact tower on 1xx.xx

Allen

On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:22:15 GMT, A Lieberma
wrote:

"Wyatt Emmerich" wrote in
:

Controllers forgetting to hand you off to tower is a fairly common
problem in the IFR environment, especially when it's practice. I just
say something like "Should I got to tower" and that usually does the
trick.

*smile*

If I don't get transferred to tower within a couple of miles from the FAF,
I was told by my instructor to "report" my position to appraoch controllers
as a memory jogger that I am still with them.

I.E. Jackson Approach 43L one mile outside Brenz.

Usually, approach will come back and then say 43L, contact tower on 1xx.xx

Allen

In Actual: Ahhh... *** approach, this is XXX 20 North at 4,000. How
far do you want me to keep going for traffic avoidance? Ahhhh XXX ...
turn heading 180 and expect vectors to the ILS.

Know what to expect when and ask why if not.
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Roger wrote in
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In Actual: Ahhh... *** approach, this is XXX 20 North at 4,000. How
far do you want me to keep going for traffic avoidance? Ahhhh XXX ...
turn heading 180 and expect vectors to the ILS.

I knew instrument flying required patience, but you exceeded the patience
of Job *big smile*.

Musta woke the controller up from a nap?

Allen

On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 04:43:22 GMT, A Lieberma
wrote:

Roger wrote in
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In Actual: Ahhh... *** approach, this is XXX 20 North at 4,000. How
far do you want me to keep going for traffic avoidance? Ahhhh XXX ...
turn heading 180 and expect vectors to the ILS.

I knew instrument flying required patience, but you exceeded the patience
of Job *big smile*.

At 3 miles a minute it doesn't take very long and when you are busy 5
or 6 minutes can go by in a hurry.

They were really busy and it was hard to get a word in.:-))
At least the ride was smooth even if I couldn't see anything.

That was the same day and same airport where they told me to follow
the airliner ahead when I couldn't see past the Deb's wing tips. I
believe my reply was something to the effect of "I would if I could,
but I can't see my own wingtips". Which was followed by another...
"Uhhh... when you break out, follow the airliner." :-))


Musta woke the controller up from a nap?

I think it certainly woke him up, but not from a nap:-))

Over the years I've had them make just about as many mistakes as I
have. On one particular trip I was cleared to land at the wrong
airport. So pilots aren't the only ones making that mistake. When I
reminded them my flight plan called for the neighboring airport, the
usual short pause was followed by a "can you make the runway from your
current position?". It was visual and I could. Some one else must have
called the tower as they were expecting me and I was well inside
where I'd have normally switched for approach to the tower. The one
approach (at the other field) handles both fields although they have
separate towers. It's a good thing they cleared me for 17 instead of
23 as both airports have a 23 but where I was headed doesn't have a
17. :-)) Actually I was already suspicious as approach was almost
taking me over the end of the runway I was expecting to use.

Allen
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com