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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:18:37 -0700, Lee McGee wrote:
Making a post small is not rocket science. This is true, but orthogonal to the idea of top/bottom posting. People don't normally repeat parts of a conversation, but conversations are normally far quicker than USENET dialog. Thus, reminders can help. More, dialogs in person are far more interactive than on USENET. A speaks a little, B speaks a little, etc. Because of the latency of USENET, that doesn't work as well here. So A "speaks" (writes) a bunch, and then B replies. Often, a given reply message actually consists of multiple replies to multiple points made by A. It makes sense in that case to interleave cited text with response. Answers typically follow questions (certain TV shows excepted {8^), so the response to a cited bit of text follows the cited bit of text. Thus, bottom-posting. The message with a lone citation is just a degenerate case, and shouldn't be treated differently. The utility of this becomes even more apparent as A (or C) replies to B. Nested citations (trimmed as much as possible, of course) help to retain the context for readers (esp. given that USENET is neither reliable nor ordered), but it requires far more work to understand if the response precedes the cited text. - Andrew |
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:06:14 -0400, Bob Noel wrote:
[...] Funny, but now I've a headache. Laugh - Andrew |
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 14:18:37 -0700, "Lee McGee" wrote:
Normal people talking in a group do not repeat the entire conversation every time they respond. No, but they don't respond to a comment two or three days later, either. If you've got an active topic, you don't know what specific comments the poster is responding to. Top posting is like telling the punch line of the joke *first*. HOWEVER...I will agree that bottom posting relies more heavily on the poster trimming the previous comments. If you're too lazy to trim, then by all means, top post. Ron Wanttaja |
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I can set Netscape to post before or after the quoted text. BTW, it took
me a minute to figure Bob's reply out. Pretty funny. Bob Noel wrote: In article , "RST Engineering" wrote: Because that's not how normal people respond to things. Normal people want to see the new stuff first because they have already waded through the prior postings. at the top? btw - are there any newsreaders with threading that put the newest post (try to post replies after quoted material in outlook). increased use of crap software like outlook for email and outlook express anyway, top-posting is probably becoming more common due to the to see it in context? "Normal" people want to see new stuff first? How about wanting I can set Netscape to post before or after the quoted text. -- Regards, Ross C-172F 180HP KSWI |
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("Ross"wrote)
I can set Netscape to post before or after the quoted text. Can you set those same trim settings to post before or after, say .....1/3 the quoted text? g Montblack |
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Montblack wrote:
("Ross"wrote) ....1/3 the quoted text? g Montblack No, you have to edit then. -- Regards, Ross C-172F 180HP KSWI |
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Oh Lordy, this is a newsgroup isn't it.
God bless them all, everyone. Montblack wrote: Trimming quotes - a lost art? It might just be me, but it seems like more and more people are quoting 100% of the previous post(s) in their replies. Please adjust your trim settings. g Thanks. Montblack http://www.ionaircraft.com/update.html "We're" g ....taxiing the plane to a different hangar for the canopy installation - later today. I stop in from time to time and help out, as best I can. |
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On Apr 5, 2:12 pm, "Montblack" Y4_NOT!...
wrote: ("Steven P. McNicoll" wrote) Bottom posting IS the way to go. That IS how normal people respond. I would PREFER top posting. North Up vs. Track Up... Forward Slip vs. Crab and Kick... Sheesh. Be yourself. (nice trimming, eh?) -R |
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