recording of birth certificate and passport numbers

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:39:41 GMT, "Blueskies"
wrote in
:


Of course, if bush gets his justice dept the way he wants it...

It starts at the top.

James wrote:
I am from Australia orginally, and speak 'Australian' English,
which ****es off ATC occasionally!

You must have a few twitchy ATC folks.

I'd bet ATC would welcome Aussie English any day, based on what I
normally hear on the radio around Boston and NY. G

B A R R Y wrote in news:h5abi.14037$RX.6072
@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net:

James wrote:
You must have a few twitchy ATC folks.

I'd bet ATC would welcome Aussie English any day, based on what I
normally hear on the radio around Boston and NY. G

Reminds me of the time I was being handled by Norcal Approach for
SFO. An Aeroflot Pilot called in with the most impeccable English
and with very clear enunciation but you could tell he was Russian;
Americans just don't speak that clearly. g

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Andrew Sarangan wrote:


The regs are vague. It uses language such as f'light school,
employees, supervisors etc.. as if all flight instruction only takes
place at large establishments. These regs were written by people who
have never seen a small airplane up close. Even part 61, which is
written by aviation experts, has a lot of holes, so it is not
reasonable to expect the TSA regs to make any kind of aviation sense.

These are the same people that want to write additional
immigration legislation and expect you people to love it.

I submit that what we have in this country is a severe case
of TWR.... Taxation Without Representation. It is probable
that the time has come to put most of these old farts into
retirement and let someone else have a chance.

B A R R Y wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:46:51 -0400, john smith
wrote:
A copy of my birth certificate and my passport?

- OR - not - and -.

Passport -OR-
Birth Certificate -AND- photo ID (presumably a drivers license or other
state ID; your amusement park season pass doesn't qualify).


Are CFI's required to be bonded now?
This is a requirement ripe for identiy theft.

You have a point.

I don't think it says you can't black out the stuff that would open you
up to liability (SSN, birthday, address...). That way if anyone breaks
into your files, the copies are worthless.


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"Sometimes it happens."
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:46:15 GMT, Jose
wrote:

To my
knowledge this is not required for American Citizens, only foreigners.
I need only show that I am an American Citizen, but don't have to submit
to recording.

Hey, if your instructor won't fly with you without the information,
that's his privilege! If you don't like it, you have the privilege of
finding another instructor.

Ain't democracy a great invention?

Blue skies! -- Dan Ford

Claire Chennault and His American Volunteers, 1941-1942
forthcoming from HarperCollins www.flyingtigersbook.com

On Jun 11, 1:18 am, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:
On Jun 10, 4:07 pm, B A R R Y wrote:





On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:46:51 -0400, john smith
wrote:

A copy of my birth certificate and my passport?

- OR - not - and -.

The flight school is required to keep a photo copy. I had to cough up
a passport to get my TSA logbook endorsement two years ago. The
endorsement includes my passport number.

Are CFI's required to be bonded now?
This is a requirement ripe for identiy theft.

You have a point.

That one of the reasons I choose to not keep copies of this paperwork
and instead just make the endorsement that I've seen it. The whole
thing makes little sense. Some FBOs are not accepting B-certificates
as well and require passports (ref: allATP)



The regs don't say that you need a birth certificate AND a passport.
These FBOs are making up their own rules above and beyond the TSA
requirements, and in my opinion, they are worse than the TSA people.

Just out of curiosity, can anyone demand to see your passport in order
to offer services? I thought only government reps or law enforcement
can demand to see them (even that I am not sure unless you are
crossing the border). It's like having to give your social security
number to at the laundromat.

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:51:51 -0000, John Godwin
wrote:

Reminds me of the time I was being handled by Norcal Approach for
SFO. An Aeroflot Pilot called in with the most impeccable English
and with very clear enunciation but you could tell he was Russian;
Americans just don't speak that clearly. g

My granddaughters live on a boat in the South Atlantic. They came up
for a visit a few weeks ago, and their mother took them to the
pediatrician for a checkup. The doctor asked the older girl (six) if
she spoke any languages other than English, and she replied, "Yes.
American."

Blue skies! -- Dan Ford

Claire Chennault and His American Volunteers, 1941-1942
forthcoming from HarperCollins www.flyingtigersbook.com