water meters

Does anybody have experience with this product or similar?:

http://www.watersavers.com/docs/yardandgarden_wat.shtml

I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water meter to measure
ballast. Any suggestions?

Roy

On Sep 5, 9:52 am, Roy Bourgeois
wrote:
Does anybody have experience with this product or similar?:

http://www.watersavers.com/docs/yardandgarden_wat.shtml

I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water meter to measure
ballast. Any suggestions?

Roy

Roy,

I have one of those meters, it works well but is not supper
accurate.

Todd Smith
3S

On Sep 5, 7:17 am, toad wrote:
On Sep 5, 9:52 am, Roy Bourgeois
wrote:

Does anybody have experience with this product or similar?:

http://www.watersavers.com/docs/yardandgarden_wat.shtml

I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water meter to measure
ballast. Any suggestions?

Roy

Roy,

I have one of those meters, it works well but is not supper
accurate.

Todd Smith
3S

Todd,

I have been selling the inline water meter for 4 years. I use it to
fill my ventus b with 20 gallons. It is very accurate and balances
the wings perfectly.

http://www.craggyaero.com/watermeter.htm

Please check Craggy Aero prices before you buy.

Thanks,


Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Richard,

That's a good meter, and if I needed an accurate meter, I would get
one. I guess that I was curious how accurate the water measurement
needs to be. Within 1 pound, 10 pounds, 1/10 ?

For weight I think within 10 pounds total might be good enough, but I
wouldn't want one wing 10 pounds heavier than the other, so I guess
that within 1 pound error per wing would be OK ?


For me in my G102, I just fill the wing tanks full.
Todd

Yes, Roy, I have one of these. It is NOT accurate enough for
determining ballast. I use mine on the inlet of my rooftop waterbed
water carrier for making sure that I have loaded enough into the
waterbed before toting it all back to the glider to fill. It is
accurate enough for that but would not trust it beyond that.



Cumulus Soaring and Wings and Wheels both sell good ones.



HTH,



Larry

"zero one"





"Roy Bourgeois" wrote in message
:

Does anybody have experience with this product or similar?:

http://www.watersavers.com/docs/yardandgarden_wat.shtml

I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water meter to measure
ballast. Any suggestions?

Roy

On Sep 5, 10:27 am, "01-- Zero One" wrote:
Yes, Roy, I have one of these. It is NOT accurate enough for
determining ballast. I use mine on the inlet of my rooftop waterbed
water carrier for making sure that I have loaded enough into the
waterbed before toting it all back to the glider to fill. It is
accurate enough for that but would not trust it beyond that.

Cumulus Soaring and Wings and Wheels both sell good ones.

HTH,

Larry

"zero one"

Larry,

How accurate does ballast need to be filled ? I have a Grob 102 and
my approach is fill completely, since it only holds about 220 lbs of
water. It also cross feeds when level so I don't worry about
perfectly symmetrical filling.

For other gliders, how much error is tolerable ?

Todd Smith
3S

Todd,



If you are filling completely then you don't need a water meter at all
do you? Just a standpipe to be sure that the water pressure is not
sufficient to burst the wings or tanks while filling.



I am more concerned that I maximize allowable for competition soaring.
Don't want the penalties. I can fill mine considerably beyond the
allowable if desired.



Larry

"zero one"






"toad" wrote in message
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On Sep 5, 10:27 am, "01-- Zero One" wrote:
Yes, Roy, I have one of these. It is NOT accurate enough for
determining ballast. I use mine on the inlet of my rooftop waterbed
water carrier for making sure that I have loaded enough into the
waterbed before toting it all back to the glider to fill. It is
accurate enough for that but would not trust it beyond that.

Cumulus Soaring and Wings and Wheels both sell good ones.

HTH,

Larry

"zero one"

Larry,

How accurate does ballast need to be filled ? I have a Grob 102 and
my approach is fill completely, since it only holds about 220 lbs of
water. It also cross feeds when level so I don't worry about
perfectly symmetrical filling.

For other gliders, how much error is tolerable ?

Todd Smith
3S

Hi Roy,

I have no idea whether the unit you mention is accurate.

However, I have received very positive feedback on the one I sell. I've sold
quite a lot of them. You can see details he
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/misc.htm#Water_Meter

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com

"Roy Bourgeois" wrote in message
...
Does anybody have experience with this product or similar?:

http://www.watersavers.com/docs/yardandgarden_wat.shtml

I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water meter to measure
ballast. Any suggestions?

Roy

I offer several electronic and mechanical meters, all seem to be widely
accepted. I've also tried the cheap garden hose variety and find these to be
pretty inaccurate.... see http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page45.htm for
available types
The best and cheapest and most accurate method is however to simply fill
the tanks and then dump into a 5 Gal bucket (as much as you don't
want)....works great for 304CZ owners, would be fine with most other gliders
and is especially easy with those with separate wing tanks and dumps below
each wing
tim
Please visit the Wings & Wheels website at www.wingsandwheels.com

Todd:
Use is for my Nimbus 3 that has 4 separate tanks and some roll performance
and structure considerations when using the inner vs. outer tanks. For
eastern conditions I normally load 14 gallons (100 liters) in each inner
tank and 7 gallons in the outer tanks. More weight out west - more weight
outboard when ridge flying. I am looking for a meter that is reasonably
accurate (+/- 5%) but doesn't weigh a ton ( I also fly a different N3 in
South Africa and would like to bring it with me).

Roy