GNS430W: Parallel offset course feature

Peter R. wrote:

On 9/7/2007 7:58:56 AM, Roy Smith wrote:


It's mostly used by people flying SAR missions. You keep increasing the
offset and end up flying a box pattern.


Ah, OK. I had read about trans-Atlantic flights using an offset and assumed
it was available in these WAAS boxes given their extreme accuracy and the
increased chances of mid-airs on climb-outs and descents.

It would be nice to use it on Victor airways, had they only offered
offests in 1/10 mile increments.

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:11:19 -0700, B wrote:

Peter R. wrote:

On 9/7/2007 7:58:56 AM, Roy Smith wrote:


It's mostly used by people flying SAR missions. You keep increasing the
offset and end up flying a box pattern.


Ah, OK. I had read about trans-Atlantic flights using an offset and assumed
it was available in these WAAS boxes given their extreme accuracy and the
increased chances of mid-airs on climb-outs and descents.

It would be nice to use it on Victor airways, had they only offered
offests in 1/10 mile increments.

It would be nice to have victor airways in the box....

Peter Clark wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:11:19 -0700, B wrote:


Peter R. wrote:


On 9/7/2007 7:58:56 AM, Roy Smith wrote:



It's mostly used by people flying SAR missions. You keep increasing the
offset and end up flying a box pattern.


Ah, OK. I had read about trans-Atlantic flights using an offset and assumed
it was available in these WAAS boxes given their extreme accuracy and the
increased chances of mid-airs on climb-outs and descents.


It would be nice to use it on Victor airways, had they only offered
offests in 1/10 mile increments.


It would be nice to have victor airways in the box....

All the necessary components of Victor airways are in the box. What you
want, I presume, is an airway database. I guess you have to go to a
G-1000 to get that.;-)

B wrote:

All the necessary components of Victor airways are in the box. What you
want, I presume, is an airway database. I guess you have to go to a
G-1000 to get that.;-)

or a GNS-480!

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 02:32:50 -0700, B wrote:

It would be nice to have victor airways in the box....

All the necessary components of Victor airways are in the box. What you
want, I presume, is an airway database. I guess you have to go to a
G-1000 to get that.;-)

I know they are, that's what's so frustrating. And once Piper makes a
Malibu or Meridan with a G1000 instaed of the Avidyne panel, I might
just trade up.....

"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 02:32:50 -0700, B wrote:

It would be nice to have victor airways in the box....

All the necessary components of Victor airways are in the box. What you
want, I presume, is an airway database. I guess you have to go to a
G-1000 to get that.;-)

I know they are, that's what's so frustrating. And once Piper makes a
Malibu or Meridan with a G1000 instaed of the Avidyne panel, I might
just trade up.....

AviDyne uses the Garmin GPS for it's Nav input, so get the Avidyne, but
attach a GPS-480 to it if you REALLY want airways.

On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 17:14:14 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:


"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 02:32:50 -0700, B wrote:

It would be nice to have victor airways in the box....

All the necessary components of Victor airways are in the box. What you
want, I presume, is an airway database. I guess you have to go to a
G-1000 to get that.;-)

I know they are, that's what's so frustrating. And once Piper makes a
Malibu or Meridan with a G1000 instaed of the Avidyne panel, I might
just trade up.....

AviDyne uses the Garmin GPS for it's Nav input, so get the Avidyne, but
attach a GPS-480 to it if you REALLY want airways.

It would be interesting to see if there's an STC for that
installation. I know I can't drop in the 530W units right now because
the Meggitt Magic display software update hasn't come out and without
it there are required functions missing. From what S-Tec says at
least that issue will be fixed early in the new year.

"B" wrote in message
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Peter Clark wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:11:19 -0700, B wrote:

It would be nice to have victor airways in the box....

All the necessary components of Victor airways are in the box. What you
want, I presume, is an airway database. I guess you have to go to a
G-1000 to get that.;-)

Airways from a GPS: That's like buying a $1000 stereo and listening to
monaural AM radio. :~(

On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 17:11:45 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:


"B" wrote in message
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Peter Clark wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:11:19 -0700, B wrote:

It would be nice to have victor airways in the box....

All the necessary components of Victor airways are in the box. What you
want, I presume, is an airway database. I guess you have to go to a
G-1000 to get that.;-)

Airways from a GPS: That's like buying a $1000 stereo and listening to
monaural AM radio. :~(

Maybe where you're flying. In the northeast (and even entering the
northeast, pretty much from PA east from what I've seen) clearances
aren't "direct", they're KLOU IIU J78 PSB J49 ALB GDM LOBBY KBED. I'd
rather just be able to dial that into the box. Heck, even going from
BED to PWM (Hanscom to Portland, ME - 83NM leg whos only airspace
issue is the 3000' and 4000' shelf of the Boston bravo ) always gets
clearned via the PSM and ENE VORs.

"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 17:11:45 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:


"B" wrote in message
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Peter Clark wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:11:19 -0700, B wrote:

It would be nice to have victor airways in the box....

All the necessary components of Victor airways are in the box. What you
want, I presume, is an airway database. I guess you have to go to a
G-1000 to get that.;-)

Airways from a GPS: That's like buying a $1000 stereo and listening to
monaural AM radio. :~(

Maybe where you're flying. In the northeast (and even entering the
northeast, pretty much from PA east from what I've seen) clearances
aren't "direct", they're KLOU IIU J78 PSB J49 ALB GDM LOBBY KBED. I'd
rather just be able to dial that into the box. Heck, even going from
BED to PWM (Hanscom to Portland, ME - 83NM leg whos only airspace
issue is the 3000' and 4000' shelf of the Boston bravo ) always gets
clearned via the PSM and ENE VORs.

I guess all I'm essentially asking is, "Can't you just do airways on the
VOR?" like they always did?