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Old July 31st 07, 04:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jul 30, 5:25 pm, wrote:
Where does this line get drawn?


By the jury.


The chances that a jury will even hear these charges are close to
zero. What will almost certainly happen is that the carjacker's
lawyer will arrange a plea bargain. The carjacker will plead guilty
to something, but as part of the deal the helicopter death charges
will be dropped.

That sort of scenario happens all the time; a prosecutor will charge
somebody with a whole smorgasbord of things, fully intending to drop
the weaker charges as part of the plea negotiation.

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Old July 31st 07, 06:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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sillysteve wrote:
On Jul 30, 5:25 pm, wrote:
Where does this line get drawn?


By the jury.


The chances that a jury will even hear these charges are close to
zero. What will almost certainly happen is that the carjacker's
lawyer will arrange a plea bargain. The carjacker will plead guilty
to something, but as part of the deal the helicopter death charges
will be dropped.


That sort of scenario happens all the time; a prosecutor will charge
somebody with a whole smorgasbord of things, fully intending to drop
the weaker charges as part of the plea negotiation.


More than likely, but the question was who draws the line in a death
by tenuous association with a crime.

In this particular case, if the carjacker is offered the bargain, he
would be insane not to go for it.


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Old July 31st 07, 09:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:


I wasn't talking about consequences for criminals. I was talking about the
effect on litigation in general. Perverting justice just to achieve emotional
satisfaction is a dangerous path to follow.

Oh Christ !!!
You are a F**KING IDIOT!!

looking forward to the day you shut-up!!!

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Old July 31st 07, 09:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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El Maximo wrote:
Because it happened in conjunction with a felony, he was charged
with, and convicted of, first degree murder.

He got life with no parole.


Excellent.
The system works.

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Old September 23rd 07, 10:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:14:02 -0700, "Gattman"
wrote in
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This sucks. Bad guy 2, police 0, media -2+



Jul 27 04:03 PM US/Eastern (AP)

Two television news helicopters collided Friday and crashed while covering a
police pursuit. Both helicopters went down in a park and were on fire. There
was no immediate word on the fate of those aboard.



PILOTS PROPOSE ANTI-COLLISION DEVICE FOR FORMATION FLYING
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196164)
Two pilots have filed a patent for a device that they say could
help to prevent mid-air collisions like the one

(http://phoenix.bizjournals.com/phoen...ml?jst=b_ln_hl)
that killed two helicopter pilots and two videographers in
Phoenix, Ariz., in July. The crews were covering a police pursuit
for television news. Inventors Chris Morrison and Ralph Gannarelli
knew two of the men who died and said the crash convinced them to
move forward with their efforts. "We both were deeply affected by
the crash, and thought there could be a better way for news pilots
to see where each helicopter is located in relation to one another
while so many are in the air at one time," Morrison told the East
Valley Tribune (http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/97541). The
two have developed a wireless GPS device that could issue voice
announcements to keep pilots apprised of the location of other
aircraft within a one-mile radius. The system would also sound a
warning if another helicopter comes within 300 feet.
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196164

While this proposed technologic fix may be useful, I would prefer to
see a third crew member added to news helicopter operations: a
dedicated pilot who does nothing but pilot the helicopter. Expecting
a pilot/journalist to observe the news making event and report what he
sees over the radio, in addition to piloting his aircraft is unsafe.
The hazard is way beyond that of text messaging while driving.

This accident raises the question of whether it appropriate for news
reporters to intrude on a crime in progress, being pursued by police
authorities, at all.
 




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