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Old October 5th 07, 07:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
YougotitSam
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Default ATC mutiny brewing

B wrote:
Password wrote:
A mutiny is brewing amongst FAA employees and in the Air Traffic
system. Buckle your seat belts pilots it's going to get rough


My previous post of yesterday disappeared. I have it on rumor that the
FAA has a well-developed plan to turn control of air traffic in this
country to the US Air Force.



I spent part of my life working for the FAA and part of my
life in the Air Force. Knowing what I know the Air Force
would do a much better job keeping the sky's safe and
efficient. The FAA is out of control and has lost it's
mission focus.

Here is the FAA's new priority with your tax money. Keep in
mind we have RECORD airline delays and FAA employee morale
is the lowest it has ever been

https://employees.faa.gov/employee_s...ions_programs/

"There are a lot of women in technical positions and
management of technical positions within the FAA, and that’s
a source of pleasure.Ann Azevedo, chief scientific and
technical advisor for aircraft safety analysis, New England
Region

Kinda gives you a warm funny huh? Think about this when you
are IFR in pea soup.
  #2  
Old October 7th 07, 04:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Ron Natalie
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YougotitSam wrote:


Here is the FAA's new priority with your tax money. Keep in mind we have
RECORD airline delays


Neither the FAA nor the Air Force would have the authority to fix the
record airline delays. It would take the ability to put into place
procedures that the air line lobby and their bought off flaks in
congress and the executive branch would never allow.
  #3  
Old October 7th 07, 05:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Denny
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On Oct 7, 11:21 am, Ron Natalie wrote:
YougotitSam wrote:

Here is the FAA's new priority with your tax money. Keep in mind we have
RECORD airline delays


Neither the FAA nor the Air Force would have the authority to fix the
record airline delays. It would take the ability to put into place
procedures that the air line lobby and their bought off flaks in
congress and the executive branch would never allow.


Yeah, we would have to bring back the CAA.... Airline slots by
regulation... Stu's would have to have RN degrees... You would be
expected to wear a suit and tie and hat, or full length dress and a
hat, to board... Children would be in fresh clothes with their hair
combed... The Pilots would stand by the door and greet passengers as
they board...
It would a hell of a lot more pleasant than the cattle stampede they
call airline travel today...

denny

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Old October 7th 07, 05:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
FAA EEO
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Denny wrote:
On Oct 7, 11:21 am, Ron Natalie wrote:
YougotitSam wrote:

Here is the FAA's new priority with your tax money. Keep in mind we have
RECORD airline delays

Neither the FAA nor the Air Force would have the authority to fix the
record airline delays. It would take the ability to put into place
procedures that the air line lobby and their bought off flaks in
congress and the executive branch would never allow.


Yeah, we would have to bring back the CAA.... Airline slots by
regulation... Stu's would have to have RN degrees... You would be
expected to wear a suit and tie and hat, or full length dress and a
hat, to board... Children would be in fresh clothes with their hair
combed... The Pilots would stand by the door and greet passengers as
they board...
It would a hell of a lot more pleasant than the cattle stampede they
call airline travel today...

denny


My son flew into Atlanta on a discount airline(Air Tran)
with one of those short notice tickets that are available
for Saturday travel recently. I live several hours from
Atlanta so the drive to pick him up was long but he saved a
ton of money on his ticket so it was worth.

I whipped into the North terminal at Atlanta
Hatsfield-Jacksooon around 730PM (His flight was late) and
looked for him for he was traveling light with no checked
baggage. I swear to God I thought I hit a Greyhound bus
station in Detroit. There was nothing but a sea of ghetto
thug blacks milling around. My son was a grain of salt in a
sea of pepper and not hard to spot. He jumped in and we
bolted out fast.

It is so sad and unbelievable that a once great Southern
City like Atlanta has digressed into Nigeria and looks like
some 3rd world **** hole in Africa. I will never fly through
that ghetto airport again. I would rather spend the extra
money and use another location from now on. I did not feel
safe nor did I feel safe for my son.

I remember the Pan-AM 707 and the classy food and service
and the adventure of flying. Now the airlines(Under Black
and Female)FAA management have become the bus routes of the
air. Discount flying tubes of **** crammed with thugs and
drug runners. Specially in and out of Atlanta.

ALL in the name of greed, incompetency and political
correctness. Our FAA has failed miserably with the airlines
and air traffic control.

So sad. Maybe somebody will develop a new airline that
requires you wear a coat and tie and treats you like a human?
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Old October 7th 07, 09:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Frankly Yours
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FAA EEO wrote:



My son flew into Atlanta on a discount airline(Air Tran) with one of
those short notice tickets that are available
for Saturday travel recently. I live several hours from Atlanta so the
drive to pick him up was long but he saved a ton of money on his ticket
so it was worth.

I whipped into the North terminal at Atlanta Hatsfield-Jacksooon around
730PM (His flight was late) and looked for him for he was traveling
light with no checked baggage. I swear to God I thought I hit a
Greyhound bus station in Detroit. There was nothing but a sea of ghetto
thug blacks milling around. My son was a grain of salt in a sea of
pepper and not hard to spot. He jumped in and we bolted out fast.


Too bad you won't acknowledge that you are not your son's real father.
He enjoys roaming through the ATL terminal hoping he might someday find
his real daddy.

Your wife just can't tell him who his daddy is because she had (and
still has) so, so many black lovers behind your white trash back.
  #6  
Old October 7th 07, 10:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Michael Ash
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In rec.aviation.student Denny wrote:
On Oct 7, 11:21 am, Ron Natalie wrote:
YougotitSam wrote:

Here is the FAA's new priority with your tax money. Keep in mind we have
RECORD airline delays


Neither the FAA nor the Air Force would have the authority to fix the
record airline delays. It would take the ability to put into place
procedures that the air line lobby and their bought off flaks in
congress and the executive branch would never allow.


Yeah, we would have to bring back the CAA.... Airline slots by
regulation... Stu's would have to have RN degrees... You would be
expected to wear a suit and tie and hat, or full length dress and a
hat, to board... Children would be in fresh clothes with their hair
combed... The Pilots would stand by the door and greet passengers as
they board...
It would a hell of a lot more pleasant than the cattle stampede they
call airline travel today...


It would be a hell of a lot more pleasant for sure, and also a hell of a
lot more expensive. Remember the term "jet set"? Remember *why* that term
was used to refer to the leisure rich?

Personally I'd rather have today's craptastic air travel than go back to
top-class service which I can't ever afford to have.

--
Michael Ash
Rogue Amoeba Software
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Old October 8th 07, 02:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Matt Barrow[_4_]
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"Michael Ash" wrote in message
...
In rec.aviation.student Denny wrote:
It would a hell of a lot more pleasant than the cattle stampede they
call airline travel today...


It would be a hell of a lot more pleasant for sure, and also a hell of a
lot more expensive. Remember the term "jet set"? Remember *why* that term
was used to refer to the leisure rich?

Personally I'd rather have today's craptastic air travel than go back to
top-class service which I can't ever afford to have.


Quite.

One has to wonder how a high priced airline would fare in today's market of
Expedia and Orbitz and people shopping to knock off a few dollars off their
ticket price.


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Old October 8th 07, 03:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Michael Ash
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In rec.aviation.student Matt Barrow wrote:
"Michael Ash" wrote in message
...
In rec.aviation.student Denny wrote:
It would a hell of a lot more pleasant than the cattle stampede they
call airline travel today...


It would be a hell of a lot more pleasant for sure, and also a hell of a
lot more expensive. Remember the term "jet set"? Remember *why* that term
was used to refer to the leisure rich?

Personally I'd rather have today's craptastic air travel than go back to
top-class service which I can't ever afford to have.


Quite.

One has to wonder how a high priced airline would fare in today's market of
Expedia and Orbitz and people shopping to knock off a few dollars off their
ticket price.


No need to wonder, just watch the smaller airlines which cut amenities to
the absolute bone totally eat the majors alive.

For people who like the amenities, just fly first class. You still get
stellar treatment (or so I'm told) and it's probably still cheaper than
flying was in this bygone era people seem to be so nostalgic for.

--
Michael Ash
Rogue Amoeba Software
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Old October 8th 07, 05:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
John Godwin
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Michael Ash wrote in
:

For people who like the amenities, just fly first class. You still
get stellar treatment (or so I'm told) and it's probably still
cheaper than flying was in this bygone era people seem to be so
nostalgic for.

The last time I flew First Class on United Airlines the service was
significantly less than stellar. I've concluded that any class service
is a crap shoot nowadays.

--
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Old October 8th 07, 11:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
B A R R Y
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:13:15 -0500, Michael Ash
wrote:

It would be a hell of a lot more pleasant for sure, and also a hell of a
lot more expensive. Remember the term "jet set"? Remember *why* that term
was used to refer to the leisure rich?


Was? G

Personally I'd rather have today's craptastic air travel than go back to
top-class service which I can't ever afford to have.


Travel across the field to the charter terminal, or visit your local
"executive" airport. Also, research "NetJet" charters and "shared"
charters.

That's where lots of airline profits went post-9/11. No security
hassles, no waiting in long lines while the cattle deal with their own
security hassles (Why can't I carry my spear gun or taser in the
cabin?), easy parking, and a perceived lower likelyhood of somebody
messing with the airplane to start with. On a shared charter, you
might even pick the departure time.

Many of the folks you see these days in First Class didn't buy the
ticket, they exchanged FF miles, or got them through some corporate
travel come-on. The executives, athletes, celebrities, all far below
the leisure rich, are over at the private side of the airport.

Remember 20 years ago, when we'd see famous folks in the airport while
we waited to board?

Once upon a time, the full-fare coach and first class passengers paid
lots of costs, and the super-saver fare was profit in empty seats. Not
to mention an enormous amount of mail, banking documents, and express
freight. Most of which now either moves by FedEx or UPS, or not at
all, as it's gone electronic.
 




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