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Old October 18th 07, 04:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:22:19 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
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Phil wrote:


Would you give up your window seat if they charged you 35% less to sit
in the middle?


The middle would be by far the most comfortable seats on the plane. Those
window seats are going to have a interesting ride.


The way I see it, only the vertical accelerations resulting from bank
initiations may possibly be objectionable to passengers. The rate of
bank initiation is under (auto)pilot control, so theoretically it
could be kept below that threshold.

Do you see ride quality problems in straight and level flight for
passengers seated well displaced from the longitudinal axis of the
aircraft?
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Old October 18th 07, 05:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:22:19 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
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Phil wrote:


Would you give up your window seat if they charged you 35% less to
sit in the middle?


The middle would be by far the most comfortable seats on the plane.
Those window seats are going to have a interesting ride.


The way I see it, only the vertical accelerations resulting from bank
initiations may possibly be objectionable to passengers. The rate of
bank initiation is under (auto)pilot control, so theoretically it
could be kept below that threshold.

Do you see ride quality problems in straight and level flight for
passengers seated well displaced from the longitudinal axis of the
aircraft?



There's a big difference from being displaced 10 feet from the center of a
20ft 747 cabin and being 40 ft from the center. And sure the (auto)pilot has
control of the bank but he still has to land and I've been in wide body
airliners that did a significant amount banking on final during bad weather.
If you build a new aircraft that is limited more than current airliners to
the weather they can land in a lot of the fuel savings is going to be lost
when they have to go around or divert while all the other planes are
landing. It won't take many of these to make people not want to fly the new
airplane.


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Old October 18th 07, 05:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote

There's a big difference from being displaced 10 feet from the center of a
20ft 747 cabin and being 40 ft from the center. And sure the (auto)pilot
has control of the bank but he still has to land and I've been in wide
body airliners that did a significant amount banking on final during bad
weather.


I wonder if a version of this plane could use fly by wire to change the way
the plane turns, a bit.

Could they have the plane do a bit more of a skid though the turns to
eliminate, or mostly eliminate the up and down of the banking for the
passenger's comfort? A little more lateral G would be better, I would
think.
--
Jim in NC


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Old October 19th 07, 12:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Morgans writes:

Could they have the plane do a bit more of a skid though the turns to
eliminate, or mostly eliminate the up and down of the banking for the
passenger's comfort?


What "up and down" are you talking about? The acceleration vector is the same
for everyone.
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Old October 19th 07, 01:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip
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On 19 Oct, 00:47, Mxsmanic wrote:
Morgans writes:
Could they have the plane do a bit more of a skid though the turns to
eliminate, or mostly eliminate the up and down of the banking for the
passenger's comfort?


What "up and down" are you talking about? The acceleration vector is the same
for everyone.


You really are completely clueless, aren't you?

Bertie

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Old October 19th 07, 04:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dave[_5_]
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Perhaps thay should consider rotatable landing gear (such as used in
the B-52). With that the plane could land in a crab, making banking
largely unnecessary.

David Johnson


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Old October 19th 07, 12:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

There's a big difference from being displaced 10 feet from the center of a
20ft 747 cabin and being 40 ft from the center.


What difference is that?
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Old October 19th 07, 04:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

There's a big difference from being displaced 10 feet from the center
of a 20ft 747 cabin and being 40 ft from the center.


What difference is that?


Like th edifference between you sitting on teh edge of your bed playing
pile-it and sitting on the toilet playing pile-it.


Bertie
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Old October 19th 07, 02:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes:

There's a big difference from being displaced 10 feet from the
center of a 20ft 747 cabin and being 40 ft from the center.


What difference is that?


30 ft.


 




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