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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:22:19 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in : Phil wrote: Would you give up your window seat if they charged you 35% less to sit in the middle? The middle would be by far the most comfortable seats on the plane. Those window seats are going to have a interesting ride. The way I see it, only the vertical accelerations resulting from bank initiations may possibly be objectionable to passengers. The rate of bank initiation is under (auto)pilot control, so theoretically it could be kept below that threshold. Do you see ride quality problems in straight and level flight for passengers seated well displaced from the longitudinal axis of the aircraft? |
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:22:19 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in : Phil wrote: Would you give up your window seat if they charged you 35% less to sit in the middle? The middle would be by far the most comfortable seats on the plane. Those window seats are going to have a interesting ride. The way I see it, only the vertical accelerations resulting from bank initiations may possibly be objectionable to passengers. The rate of bank initiation is under (auto)pilot control, so theoretically it could be kept below that threshold. Do you see ride quality problems in straight and level flight for passengers seated well displaced from the longitudinal axis of the aircraft? There's a big difference from being displaced 10 feet from the center of a 20ft 747 cabin and being 40 ft from the center. And sure the (auto)pilot has control of the bank but he still has to land and I've been in wide body airliners that did a significant amount banking on final during bad weather. If you build a new aircraft that is limited more than current airliners to the weather they can land in a lot of the fuel savings is going to be lost when they have to go around or divert while all the other planes are landing. It won't take many of these to make people not want to fly the new airplane. |
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![]() "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote There's a big difference from being displaced 10 feet from the center of a 20ft 747 cabin and being 40 ft from the center. And sure the (auto)pilot has control of the bank but he still has to land and I've been in wide body airliners that did a significant amount banking on final during bad weather. I wonder if a version of this plane could use fly by wire to change the way the plane turns, a bit. Could they have the plane do a bit more of a skid though the turns to eliminate, or mostly eliminate the up and down of the banking for the passenger's comfort? A little more lateral G would be better, I would think. -- Jim in NC |
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Morgans writes:
Could they have the plane do a bit more of a skid though the turns to eliminate, or mostly eliminate the up and down of the banking for the passenger's comfort? What "up and down" are you talking about? The acceleration vector is the same for everyone. |
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On 19 Oct, 00:47, Mxsmanic wrote:
Morgans writes: Could they have the plane do a bit more of a skid though the turns to eliminate, or mostly eliminate the up and down of the banking for the passenger's comfort? What "up and down" are you talking about? The acceleration vector is the same for everyone. You really are completely clueless, aren't you? Bertie |
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Perhaps thay should consider rotatable landing gear (such as used in
the B-52). With that the plane could land in a crab, making banking largely unnecessary. David Johnson |
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:
There's a big difference from being displaced 10 feet from the center of a 20ft 747 cabin and being 40 ft from the center. What difference is that? |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Gig 601XL Builder writes: There's a big difference from being displaced 10 feet from the center of a 20ft 747 cabin and being 40 ft from the center. What difference is that? Like th edifference between you sitting on teh edge of your bed playing pile-it and sitting on the toilet playing pile-it. Bertie |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes: There's a big difference from being displaced 10 feet from the center of a 20ft 747 cabin and being 40 ft from the center. What difference is that? 30 ft. |
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