Complex endorsement question

On Feb 22, 7:19*pm, john wrote:
I already have a high-performance sign-off with several hours in a
C182 and a couple in a Bonanza. *I have found a couple of places which
rent a C172RG for a reasonable price. *My goal is to be get my
commercial and I'm starting to work on my IFR. *With that in mind, I'm
looking at taking at least part of the IFR training in the 172RG.

If you are working on your commercial the complex will just come with
it. The sign of for complex is really about being able to handle more
systems at once.

-Robert, CFII

Thanks for the information. I'm considering it for a few reasons -
1) An older 172RG is renting cheaper than a newer 172. ($110 compared
with $114).
2) Getting a commerical is one thing, but insurance and job
requirements will usually require more than just the 10 hrs required
for the commercial.
3) X-C trips are nicer during the times when I want to get somewhere a
little faster.
4) Not as many pilots rent the RG. Most renters are student pilots,
or pilots just out having fun and aren't interested in an older model.
(No auto-pilot or panel GPS???). As a result, it is more likely to be
available when I want to fly.


If you are working on your commercial the complex will just come with
it. The sign of for complex is really about being able to handle more
systems at once.

-Robert, CFII

I've never flown a 172RG. Does it have a variable pitch prop?


"john" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the information. I'm considering it for a few reasons -
1) An older 172RG is renting cheaper than a newer 172. ($110 compared
with $114).
2) Getting a commerical is one thing, but insurance and job
requirements will usually require more than just the 10 hrs required
for the commercial.
3) X-C trips are nicer during the times when I want to get somewhere a
little faster.
4) Not as many pilots rent the RG. Most renters are student pilots,
or pilots just out having fun and aren't interested in an older model.
(No auto-pilot or panel GPS???). As a result, it is more likely to be
available when I want to fly.


If you are working on your commercial the complex will just come with
it. The sign of for complex is really about being able to handle more
systems at once.

-Robert, CFII

Stan Prevost wrote:
I've never flown a 172RG. Does it have a variable pitch prop?


It's a mini C-210... in everything but carrying capacity. Retractable gear,
constant speed prop, cowl flaps, rudder trim. I always thought they were nice
flying and they're quicker than a normal C-172. Given the OP's choices between
the older RG and the newer SP, I'd pick the RG every time... unless one's a dog
and the other one isn't. But a RG in good condition is good flying.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in
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Stan Prevost wrote:
I've never flown a 172RG. Does it have a variable pitch prop?


It's a mini C-210... in everything but carrying capacity. Retractable
gear, constant speed prop, cowl flaps, rudder trim. I always thought
they were nice flying and they're quicker than a normal C-172. Given
the OP's choices between the older RG and the newer SP, I'd pick the
RG every time... unless one's a dog and the other one isn't. But a RG
in good condition is good flying.




?? Really? I flew a few of them brand new from the factory and wondered why
they bothered.

Bertie

?? Really? I flew a few of them brand new from the factory and wondered
why
they bothered.

Bertie

The C172RG was Cessna's answer to flight school needs to full fill the
commercial complex requirement, controllable prop, flaps and retract.. I
would consider the 172RG a "baby Skylane" and not a mini C210.

BT

BT wrote:
?? Really? I flew a few of them brand new from the factory and wondered
why
they bothered.

Bertie

The C172RG was Cessna's answer to flight school needs to full fill the
commercial complex requirement, controllable prop, flaps and retract.. I
would consider the 172RG a "baby Skylane" and not a mini C210.


The C-210 is a stretched C-182; just as the PA-32 came directly from the PA-28.
Anybody comfortable in one will know his way around the other.


--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

"BT" wrote in news:PE4wj.18961$497.6256
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?? Really? I flew a few of them brand new from the factory and wondered
why
they bothered.

Bertie

The C172RG was Cessna's answer to flight school needs to full fill the
commercial complex requirement, controllable prop, flaps and retract.. I
would consider the 172RG a "baby Skylane" and not a mini C210.


The few I flew wee just useless. The performance was desperate, the gear
was complicated. Half the baggage area was taken up with wheel well and all
for a handful of knots...


Bertie

if he's flying solo in the Bonanza... then he should already have a complex
endorsement.
yes, part of the Commercial PTS does require a complex aircraft.. but the
endorsement does not come with the check ride
B

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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On Feb 22, 7:19 pm, john wrote:
I already have a high-performance sign-off with several hours in a
C182 and a couple in a Bonanza. I have found a couple of places which
rent a C172RG for a reasonable price. My goal is to be get my
commercial and I'm starting to work on my IFR. With that in mind, I'm
looking at taking at least part of the IFR training in the 172RG.

If you are working on your commercial the complex will just come with
it. The sign of for complex is really about being able to handle more
systems at once.

-Robert, CFII

The Bonanza was with an instructor, and in order to rent it solo, the
insurance requires 500 hrs total, IFR cert, and 50 hrs in type. It
will be awhile before I fly it solo. I would have to check, but I
think the insurance requirements on his C337s are less strict.

On Feb 23, 11:07*am, "BT" wrote:
if he's flying solo in the Bonanza... then he should already have a complex
endorsement.
yes, part of the Commercial PTS does require a complex aircraft.. but the
endorsement does not come with the check ride
B

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in ...
On Feb 22, 7:19 pm, john wrote:

I already have a high-performance sign-off with several hours in a
C182 and a couple in a Bonanza. I have found a couple of places which
rent a C172RG for a reasonable price. My goal is to be get my
commercial and I'm starting to work on my IFR. With that in mind, I'm
looking at taking at least part of the IFR training in the 172RG.

If you are working on your commercial the complex will just come with
it. The sign of for complex is really about being able to handle more
systems at once.

-Robert, CFII