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I don't want to discourage anyone from using Lynn's airspace files, 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
		
	
	
	but I do want to encourage pilots to understand the data they're using, and in this case the TINSTAFL rule applies (along with its corollary, YGWYPF). I took a quick peak at the current version of Lynn's NASR translation at the turnpoint exchange, and looking at just the Phoenix area, I could find differences from the current (justsoar.com) NFD version. For example, the Luke AFB Class D in Lynn's file is the old 4.4 mile radius (it was changed to 5.6 miles in May of 2007, along with a couple of other tweaks). Now, if you were a contest manager and had to designate a particular data set for your contest, which would you choose? (Speaking of contests, I've arranged with the Contest Committee to provide current airspace files for all sanctioned contests, for free distribution among the pilots for use at that contest.) A general difference, which may or may not be significant depending on how picky you are about the different flavors of SUA, is that all of the MOA and ALERT areas in Lynn’s version are categorized as “DANGER”.. Danger is a valid SUA type, but has a different definition than MOA or ALERT. Something Lynn’s data does have that I wish the NFD had is effective times for the MOAs. But the NACO has told me it’s on the list of things they’re adding to the NFD, along with contact frequencies. If NACO hasn't added these by 2009, I plan on adding them myself by cross- referencing other available data. A significant item missing from both data sets are USA boundary data -- pilots flying close to Mexico or Canada need to rely on something besides their airspace data to stay legal. (Yes, that's coming soon as a justsoar.com add-on too ![]() ~ted ASG28.7 "2NO" ps I cannot find anything anywhere in the faa.gov or naco.faa.gov web sites that discusses publishing SUA in GIS format. I'm not saying it's not there -- I just can't find it.  | 
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pps it's also worth noting that the NFD, as the FAA/NACO's designated 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
		
	
	
	source for in-flight digital airspace navigation data, is updated every 28 days. These updates are not just routine changes to airspace definitions -- they include the addition of things like corridors through restricted areas, special case airspaces (e.g. the Grand Canyon no-fly zone, which is only in the NFD), and (coming soon) contact frequencies. This off-season the justsoar.com site will also add a few optional features, including country boundary data and a subscriber-populated database of landout locations. Stay tuned ...  | 
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