Simulators

On May 16, 10:01*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

, especially the low-time PPLs
that seem to haunt this group (or at least seem to be the most prolific
posters).

Pray tell, just how much time have you spent in a real plane behind
the yoke? Lets see just how much PIC time you can stack up against
the majority of the posters in the group.

Let me guess.

A. You wont answer
B. Your PIC time by FAA standards are far less then 99.99999 percent
of the posters in this group.
C. My guess your PIC time is zero.

All your sim time don't even stack up the reality of flying a real
plane because MSFS is not an FAA endorsed simulator is it?

Let me guess, you are not even a CGI either are you?

You single handedly are the haunt of this group pretending you pilot
C152, barons, Lears cross country and PRESENTING it as if you are in a
real plane.

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Pray tell, just how much time have you spent in a real plane behind
the yoke?

None--at least none in flight. So what?

Lets see just how much PIC time you can stack up against
the majority of the posters in the group.

Why?

All your sim time don't even stack up the reality of flying a real
plane because MSFS is not an FAA endorsed simulator is it?

Even if it were a FAA-certified simulator, it would not necessarily qualify as
PIC time.

However, certified simulators are overrated. A certified simulator isn't
necessarily a good simulator ... it's just a certified simulator. That means
that the FAA lets you log time on the sim for certain purposes under certain
conditions--and nothing more. Many simulators are specialized for a certain
purpose: they simulate one aspect of flying with perfect or near-perfect
fidelity, but they hardly simulate anything else at all. And if it's
certified, it's always overpriced.

Let me guess, you are not even a CGI either are you?

No. So what?

You single handedly are the haunt of this group pretending you pilot
C152, barons, Lears cross country and PRESENTING it as if you are in a
real plane.

I don't fly Learjets; I fly a Citation X instead. I use that aircraft for
flights suited to bizjets.

Anyway, if I talk about my simulation and people think I'm flying a real
airplane, then my simulation must be pretty good (it fooled the FAA once). On
the other hand, if it's obvious that I'm simulating, then it doesn't matter if
I don't mention the fact, does it?

I know a lot about a number of different aircraft because I've flown them in
simulation. Many PPLs don't know anything about any airplane except the one
they usually fly. I see examples of the latter regularly here.

Mxsmanic wrote:

However, certified simulators are overrated. A certified simulator isn't
necessarily a good simulator ... it's just a certified simulator. That means
that the FAA lets you log time on the sim for certain purposes under certain
conditions--and nothing more. Many simulators are specialized for a certain
purpose: they simulate one aspect of flying with perfect or near-perfect
fidelity, but they hardly simulate anything else at all. And if it's
certified, it's always overpriced.

Delusional babble.


--
Jim Pennino

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Anyway, if I talk about my simulation and people think I'm flying a real
airplane, then my simulation must be pretty good (it fooled the FAA once). On
the other hand, if it's obvious that I'm simulating, then it doesn't matter
if
I don't mention the fact, does it?


That is a very revealing statement. If you talk about simulated flying
experience and you do not inform the listener your experience was simulated it
simply means you are faking. If some people do not call you on it immediately,
it is only because most of us are charitable enough not to assume we're being
lied to until it becomes obvious.

It will not take long, based on your contributions here, for any real pilot to
understand you know far less than you imagine and have a poor grasp of the
fundamentals of flying.

You statement here indicates clearly you do not use simulation in its own
right, for edification and enjoyment, but that you spend your time trying to
fool people (including the FAA) into believing you are a pilot.

VOR-DME writes:

That is a very revealing statement. If you talk about simulated flying
experience and you do not inform the listener your experience was simulated it
simply means you are faking.

Not really. The fact that I simulate isn't necessarily relevant to the
conversation. Remember, virtually all aspects of simulation work just as the
real world does ... that's the point. Pull back on the yoke and pitch
increases. Extend the gear and drag increases. It doesn't really matter if
it's simulated or real.

However, if the Yeager-wannabe cannot tell that I'm talking about simulation,
either the simulation is very good or the Real Pilot is pretty bad. Usually I
think it's the former.

If some people do not call you on it immediately,
it is only because most of us are charitable enough not to assume we're being
lied to until it becomes obvious.

I never say that I fly a real airplane; I simply don't mention that it's
simulation. As I've said, it's usually irrelevant. IFR procedures are executed
in exactly the same way in simulation as they are in real life--so why mention
that it is simulation when discussing it? Especially when the treehouse club
starts hooting like a pack of apes every time they hear the word simulation.

It will not take long, based on your contributions here, for any real pilot to
understand you know far less than you imagine and have a poor grasp of the
fundamentals of flying.

Except that I do not have a poor grasp of the fundamentals of flying. That's
what irritates a lot of the junior pilots here who apparently got their PPLs
just to boost their egos, rather than for the purpose of flying.

You statement here indicates clearly you do not use simulation in its own
right, for edification and enjoyment, but that you spend your time trying to
fool people (including the FAA) into believing you are a pilot.

No, my statement indicates that I consider aviation to be the same subject
whether people simulate or fly a real airplane. As for the FAA, I never talked
to them at all.

On May 17, 5:29*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

"I never say that I fly a real airplane; I simply don't mention that it's
simulation."

LOL!

On May 17, 4:29*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

Not really. The fact that I simulate isn't necessarily relevant to the
conversation.

YES IT IS.

Remember, virtually all aspects of simulation work just as the
real world does ... that's the point. *Pull back on the yoke and pitch
increases. Extend the gear and drag increases. It doesn't really matter if
it's simulated or real.

WRONG. Much to your chagrin, there is MUCH more to flying a real
plane then MSFS. As stated before, ONLY one example is inner ear
balance. I never got leans in front of my computer. I never reached
over to tune a radio in IMC on MSFS. I have never had anything bad
happened to me when I crashed in MSFS. I won't test that in real
life.

I talk from experience in both the sim and real world. What is your
experience in a REAL plane (NOT MSFS or desktop computer) on an IFR
flight plan in IMC????

Let me guess, you won't answer the last question above.

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YES IT IS.

Perhaps to you, but not to everyone.

WRONG. Much to your chagrin, there is MUCH more to flying a real
plane then MSFS. As stated before, ONLY one example is inner ear
balance. I never got leans in front of my computer. I never reached
over to tune a radio in IMC on MSFS. I have never had anything bad
happened to me when I crashed in MSFS. I won't test that in real
life.

What type of aircraft was this?

I talk from experience in both the sim and real world. What is your
experience in a REAL plane (NOT MSFS or desktop computer) on an IFR
flight plan in IMC????

Well, I've certainly been a passenger on such flights, and I've never
developed the leans or spatial disorientation to an extent that would have
interfered with flying.

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Not really. The fact that I simulate isn't necessarily relevant to the
conversation. Remember, virtually all aspects of simulation work just as the
real world does ... that's the point. Pull back on the yoke and pitch
increases. Extend the gear and drag increases. It doesn't really matter if
it's simulated or real.

However, if the Yeager-wannabe cannot tell that I'm talking about simulation,
either the simulation is very good or the Real Pilot is pretty bad. Usually
I
think it's the former.


Let's just try; Most people are not as dishonest as yourself. You can fool
someone for a short time, but it won't last long.

If you tell a real pilot you fly a Citation X, he has no reason to doubt it.
Lots of people fly this airplane. But when you tell him you fly it alone, and
you are "not interested" in CRM or flying with others, he will understand you
are full of it. By the time it gets to where you REALLY don't know whether a
Beech Baron has an ejection seat, well then he's the one having fun at your
expense. Not that you would notice.

VOR-DME writes:

Let's just try; Most people are not as dishonest as yourself.

I have a reputation for being honest to a fault.

If you tell a real pilot you fly a Citation X, he has no reason to doubt it.
Lots of people fly this airplane. But when you tell him you fly it alone, and
you are "not interested" in CRM or flying with others, he will understand you
are full of it.

He will understand that I don't actually fly the real airplane. So what?

By the time it gets to where you REALLY don't know whether a
Beech Baron has an ejection seat, well then he's the one having fun at your
expense. Not that you would notice.

If he finds that fun, he is easily amused.