F15E's trounced by Eurofighters

In message , Krztalizer
writes
Reminds me of the "shocking" 'loss' between the USN and the IAF that was
reported here a year or so back.

Or Jeff Ethell reporting how the Chilean Air Force beat a US Navy
carrier group 56-20. You need to know the ROE and the purpose of the
exercise before drawing too many conclusions.

--
When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite.
W S Churchill

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:56:09 +0000, "Paul J. Adam"
wrote:

In message , Krztalizer
writes
Reminds me of the "shocking" 'loss' between the USN and the IAF that was
reported here a year or so back.

Or Jeff Ethell reporting how the Chilean Air Force beat a US Navy
carrier group 56-20. You need to know the ROE and the purpose of the
exercise before drawing too many conclusions.


I've emailed the 48th TFW for an answer..

as below:-

"Could you please help me with some information in regard to an
incident on Thursday the 19th of February 2004 over the skies of
Windermere, it is reported that Two Eurofighter Typhoon twin-seaters
were bounced from the eight o'clock by a couple of F-15Es appaerently
belonging to the USAFE's 48th TFW.


Could you please give me some background information on this incident.


Firstly Did this happen?, and If so
1. Was it an preplanned exercise?.
2. Which aircraft from the 48th were involved.
3. What was their loadout, eg Conformal fuel tanks, weapons.
4. what happend?.

Many thanks"


now its wait n see

cheers

"Paul J. Adam" wrote:

In message , Krztalizer
writes
Reminds me of the "shocking" 'loss' between the USN and the IAF that was
reported here a year or so back.

Or Jeff Ethell reporting how the Chilean Air Force beat a US Navy
carrier group 56-20. You need to know the ROE and the purpose of the
exercise before drawing too many conclusions.

Always the whining excuses.

Rod

You need to know the ROE and the purpose of the
exercise before drawing too many conclusions.

Always the whining excuses.


Rod, that's crap. If you say, "I beat ten guys in a fight" and leave off the
part about them all being in their 80s and wheelchair bound, those are relevent
facts to determining what really happened. I don't doubt that a Eurojäger
could beat an Eagle, but wouldn't you at least like to hear about the
circumstances? That's not whining.

I don't doubt given a set of circumstances the Euro could win, but even if
that's the case it's mind-boggling to declare an end to US air superiority.

Or Jeff Ethell reporting how the Chilean Air Force beat a US Navy
carrier group 56-20. You need to know the ROE and the purpose of the
exercise before drawing too many conclusions.


The Chileans F-16s are very formidable fighters, especially in a knifefight.

Well depending on how recent that was, the Chileans might have had their F-16C,
helmet mounted sight, Python4 AAM, and it makes it prettty frustrating at the
merge, when all the Chilean pilot has to do it look at you, and you can
consider yourself "morted"


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)

"Ron" wrote in message
...
Or Jeff Ethell reporting how the Chilean Air Force beat a US Navy
carrier group 56-20. You need to know the ROE and the purpose of the
exercise before drawing too many conclusions.


The Chileans F-16s are very formidable fighters, especially in a
knifefight.

Well depending on how recent that was, the Chileans might have had their
F-16C,
helmet mounted sight, Python4 AAM, and it makes it prettty frustrating at
the
merge, when all the Chilean pilot has to do it look at you, and you can
consider yourself "morted"

The Chilean Air Force has no F-16's as of yet. They have ordered some, but
do not as yet have any in their inventory.

Brooks



Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)