vintage motorglider for sale

On Mar 7, 6:47*pm, Tony wrote:
On Mar 7, 7:05*pm, GM wrote:

On Wednesday, March 7, 2012 3:17:37 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
needs a little work.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=276309655

Can this one be aero-towed or winch launched? Getting the fuel for the small rocket engine might become a problem. That stuff was said to have some nasty habits like catching fire when it comes in contact with certain materials and being extremely corrosive.

i think i saw something online that the US acquired a few after the
war and towed them with B-29's while test pilots checked them out.
Perhaps we need to notify the Commemorative Air Force and see if they
will put a towhook on Fifi!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmSNqHckry8

On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 18:12:04 -0800, Bill D wrote:

On Mar 7, 6:47Â*pm, Tony wrote:
On Mar 7, 7:05Â*pm, GM wrote:

On Wednesday, March 7, 2012 3:17:37 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
needs a little work.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=276309655

Can this one be aero-towed or winch launched? Getting the fuel for
the small rocket engine might become a problem. That stuff was said
to have some nasty habits like catching fire when it comes in contact
with certain materials and being extremely corrosive.

i think i saw something online that the US acquired a few after the war
and towed them with B-29's while test pilots checked them out. Perhaps
we need to notify the Commemorative Air Force and see if they will put
a towhook on Fifi!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmSNqHckry8

That's obviously the unpowered replica.

Nearly a year ago I visited RAF Cosford on a wet day during a CGC
gliding expedition to The Mynd. Cosford which has a fantastic collection
of Cold War British aircraft including all the V-bombers as well as a
wonderful collection of late 60s British experimental jets and a
selection of WW2 aircraft including a Me-163B. I was intrigued to see it
has a tow hook in exactly the same place as that replica and wonder why.
Was it for aero-towed retrieves if it had to land out after a combat
sortie and/or for moving them between airfields?


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The 163 used 100% peroxide as the oxidizer. Nasty stuff that would
"burn" anything it could come in contact with.

F-16 doesn't glide any better than a lawn dart.

F-15 glides beautifully. I once rode in one that glided 75 miles from
flight level 400, in flight idle, joker fuel, to pattern altitude
without touching the throttle.

mj

On Mar 8, 3:47*pm, Mark Jardini wrote:
The 163 used 100% peroxide as the oxidizer. Nasty stuff that would
"burn" anything it could come in contact with.

F-16 doesn't glide any better than a lawn dart.

F-15 glides beautifully. I once rode in one that glided 75 miles from
flight level 400, in flight idle, joker fuel, to pattern altitude
without touching the throttle.

mj

Hmm, that's 11/1, with idle thrust (which is not trivial in an Eagle).
F-16s use 6/1 for flameout approach (1000' for every mile away from
field), probably at around 250 - 300 knots.

F-15 is wonderful, but hardly a glider!

I've done formation recoveries on the wing of F-4s in Aggressor T-38s
(this is a long time ago!). F-4 was at probably 75 - 80%, while the
38 was at idle and using the speed brakes to maintain formation. No
doubt which was the better "glider" between those 2 jets!

Kirk
66

In my wave flight presentations, I always end the talk with a slide
stating that the ideal wave machine is:
- Vne high (most important)
- Proven design
- Self-launching
- and from manufacturers we already know.
.... then I have a pic of the Me163. Wow! Now it's only a matter of
money to restore it to flight status.......

Kemp

On Mar 8, 3:12*pm, "kirk.stant" wrote:
On Mar 8, 3:47*pm, Mark Jardini wrote:

The 163 used 100% peroxide as the oxidizer. Nasty stuff that would
"burn" anything it could come in contact with.

F-16 doesn't glide any better than a lawn dart.

F-15 glides beautifully. I once rode in one that glided 75 miles from
flight level 400, in flight idle, joker fuel, to pattern altitude
without touching the throttle.

mj

Hmm, that's 11/1, with idle thrust (which is not trivial in an Eagle).
F-16s use 6/1 for flameout approach (1000' for every mile away from
field), probably at around 250 - 300 knots.

F-15 is wonderful, but hardly a glider!

I've done formation recoveries on the wing of F-4s in Aggressor T-38s
(this is a long time ago!). *F-4 was at probably 75 - 80%, while the
38 was at idle and using the speed brakes to maintain formation. *No
doubt which was the better "glider" between those 2 jets!

Kirk
66

I'd bet good money that an F-22 will out-glide any of the 4th and
earlier generation fighters. Look ma! No external stores!

On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 13:34:02 -0800, Martin Gregorie
wrote:

On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 18:12:04 -0800, Bill D wrote:

On Mar 7, 6:47 pm, Tony wrote:
On Mar 7, 7:05 pm, GM wrote:

On Wednesday, March 7, 2012 3:17:37 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
needs a little work.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=276309655

Can this one be aero-towed or winch launched? Getting the fuel for
the small rocket engine might become a problem. That stuff was said
to have some nasty habits like catching fire when it comes in contact
with certain materials and being extremely corrosive.

i think i saw something online that the US acquired a few after the war
and towed them with B-29's while test pilots checked them out. Perhaps
we need to notify the Commemorative Air Force and see if they will put
a towhook on Fifi!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmSNqHckry8

That's obviously the unpowered replica.

Nearly a year ago I visited RAF Cosford on a wet day during a CGC
gliding expedition to The Mynd. Cosford which has a fantastic collection
of Cold War British aircraft including all the V-bombers as well as a
wonderful collection of late 60s British experimental jets and a
selection of WW2 aircraft including a Me-163B. I was intrigued to see it
has a tow hook in exactly the same place as that replica and wonder why.
Was it for aero-towed retrieves if it had to land out after a combat
sortie and/or for moving them between airfields?



Here's an excellent video with lots of detailed shots. Tost hook is
clearly shown. Also, I'd never noticed the split flaps / drag devices
which are deployed in this video. Revolutionaly airplane in many aspects.

Craig
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On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 13:54:15 -0800, Craig Funston
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 13:34:02 -0800, Martin Gregorie
wrote:

On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 18:12:04 -0800, Bill D wrote:

On Mar 7, 6:47 pm, Tony wrote:
On Mar 7, 7:05 pm, GM wrote:

On Wednesday, March 7, 2012 3:17:37 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
needs a little work.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=276309655

Can this one be aero-towed or winch launched? Getting the fuel for
the small rocket engine might become a problem. That stuff was said
to have some nasty habits like catching fire when it comes in
contact
with certain materials and being extremely corrosive.

i think i saw something online that the US acquired a few after the
war
and towed them with B-29's while test pilots checked them out. Perhaps
we need to notify the Commemorative Air Force and see if they will put
a towhook on Fifi!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmSNqHckry8

That's obviously the unpowered replica.

Nearly a year ago I visited RAF Cosford on a wet day during a CGC
gliding expedition to The Mynd. Cosford which has a fantastic
collection
of Cold War British aircraft including all the V-bombers as well as a
wonderful collection of late 60s British experimental jets and a
selection of WW2 aircraft including a Me-163B. I was intrigued to see it
has a tow hook in exactly the same place as that replica and wonder why.
Was it for aero-towed retrieves if it had to land out after a combat
sortie and/or for moving them between airfields?



Here's an excellent video with lots of detailed shots. Tost hook is
clearly shown. Also, I'd never noticed the split flaps / drag devices
which are deployed in this video. Revolutionaly airplane in many
aspects.

Craig

It might help to add the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrMmm...layer_embedded


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