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The 163 used 100% peroxide as the oxidizer. Nasty stuff that would
"burn" anything it could come in contact with.

F-16 doesn't glide any better than a lawn dart.

F-15 glides beautifully. I once rode in one that glided 75 miles from
flight level 400, in flight idle, joker fuel, to pattern altitude
without touching the throttle.

mj

On Mar 8, 3:47*pm, Mark Jardini wrote:
The 163 used 100% peroxide as the oxidizer. Nasty stuff that would
"burn" anything it could come in contact with.

F-16 doesn't glide any better than a lawn dart.

F-15 glides beautifully. I once rode in one that glided 75 miles from
flight level 400, in flight idle, joker fuel, to pattern altitude
without touching the throttle.

mj

Hmm, that's 11/1, with idle thrust (which is not trivial in an Eagle).
F-16s use 6/1 for flameout approach (1000' for every mile away from
field), probably at around 250 - 300 knots.

F-15 is wonderful, but hardly a glider!

I've done formation recoveries on the wing of F-4s in Aggressor T-38s
(this is a long time ago!). F-4 was at probably 75 - 80%, while the
38 was at idle and using the speed brakes to maintain formation. No
doubt which was the better "glider" between those 2 jets!

Kirk
66

In my wave flight presentations, I always end the talk with a slide
stating that the ideal wave machine is:
- Vne high (most important)
- Proven design
- Self-launching
- and from manufacturers we already know.
.... then I have a pic of the Me163. Wow! Now it's only a matter of
money to restore it to flight status.......

Kemp

On Mar 8, 3:12*pm, "kirk.stant" wrote:
On Mar 8, 3:47*pm, Mark Jardini wrote:

The 163 used 100% peroxide as the oxidizer. Nasty stuff that would
"burn" anything it could come in contact with.

F-16 doesn't glide any better than a lawn dart.

F-15 glides beautifully. I once rode in one that glided 75 miles from
flight level 400, in flight idle, joker fuel, to pattern altitude
without touching the throttle.

mj

Hmm, that's 11/1, with idle thrust (which is not trivial in an Eagle).
F-16s use 6/1 for flameout approach (1000' for every mile away from
field), probably at around 250 - 300 knots.

F-15 is wonderful, but hardly a glider!

I've done formation recoveries on the wing of F-4s in Aggressor T-38s
(this is a long time ago!). *F-4 was at probably 75 - 80%, while the
38 was at idle and using the speed brakes to maintain formation. *No
doubt which was the better "glider" between those 2 jets!

Kirk
66

I'd bet good money that an F-22 will out-glide any of the 4th and
earlier generation fighters. Look ma! No external stores!