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Old June 13th 13, 12:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Just to clarify - The LSA max speed rule is not Vne. It is "maximum speed in level flight with maximum continuous power (Vh)—138 mph (120 knots) CAS."

There will be other complications in going LSA with a glider, but "Vh" probably won't be one of them...
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Old June 13th 13, 11:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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14CFR 1.1 Definiton of LS aircraft, "Vne speed of 120kcas for a glider"
A glider does not have Vh, as it has no "power"

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Old June 13th 13, 11:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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No you are wrong. For a LSA glider (motor glider or true glider) there
is a VNE limit of 120 knots. It is true for a non motor glider LSA
power plane there is a cruise or maximum power speed limit under power
of 120 knots and the VNE is without limitation. Ridiculous! But that's
the way the rules are written. A couple of years ago I pointed these
inconsistencies out to the FAA group who composed LSA rules. Their
response could best be described as "Oh **** we really don't want to
hear that".
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Old June 13th 13, 11:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Bill
You are wrong. A motor glider is considered by the FAA to be a
glider and the LSA rules apply equally to both powered and non power
gliders. Of course a motor glider has a VH and a non power glider does
not.
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Old June 14th 13, 07:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Is it really that hard to get an EASA certified glider type certified with the FAA? The type certificates that Transport Canada issues for EASA built and certified gliders look to be pretty much just the EASA documents approved under a reciprocal agreement. The ASH-31Mi for example already has a type certificate here. No certificate for the ASG-29, but then no one's imported one into Canada yet.
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Old June 14th 13, 10:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The DG1001 surprises me, since the USAF flies them too (although without engine I guess).
DG told me once that even the special wingtips (able to hold smokepods) were certified.
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Old June 14th 13, 01:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Friday, June 14, 2013 5:53:31 AM UTC-4, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On Jun 14, 2:39*am, wrote: Is it really that hard to get an EASA certified glider type certified with the FAA? The type certificates that Transport Canada issues for EASA built and certified gliders look to be pretty much just the EASA documents approved under a reciprocal agreement. The ASH-31Mi for example already has a type certificate here. No certificate for the ASG-29, but then no one's imported one into Canada yet. Not true ASG-29 is certified in Canda as ASW-27-18.


This agrees with the German type certificate.
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Old June 15th 13, 09:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Not true ASG-29 is certified in Canda as ASW-27-18.


Oops. I should have realized that, especially given that an earlier post in the thread mentioned that's how the 29 is certified.

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Not true ASG-29 is certified in Canda as ASW-27-18.


Oops. I should have realized that, especially given that an earlier post in the thread mentioned that's how the 29 is certified here!

 




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