Glide ratio with full brakes and side slip

On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 4:40:57 AM UTC-4, wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had an idea of what sort of glide ratio you get with full brakes and slide slip? An instructor used this to correct a very high approach but I was curious what the side slip adds to the descent rate.

Its a Forward Slip...Not a side slip...

Reminds me of a radio broadcast overheard, Pilot: "Tower Cessna November 123 with information alpha, inbound for landing" Tower: Cessna November 123 would that be a Cessna 150 or a Cessna Citation.


On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 11:06:06 AM UTC-7, 4881828 wrote:
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 4:40:57 AM UTC-4, wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had an idea of what sort of glide ratio you get with full brakes and slide slip? An instructor used this to correct a very high approach but I was curious what the side slip adds to the descent rate.

Its a Forward Slip...Not a side slip...

Related, but sorta off topic.

I was flying a C-150 at a sorta busy regional airport with my CFI, I was number 7 in the pattern. Tower called me and asked if I could speed up because of a twin behind me, I answered, "cannot comply, full throttle as it is........ Permission to do a 360 to let the twin pass?" , reply was, "permission granted to do 360".

My instructor thought it was a good response by me to an odd situation.......

Originally Posted by 4881828

On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 4:40:57 AM UTC-4, wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had an idea of what sort of glide ratio you get with full brakes and slide slip? An instructor used this to correct a very high approach but I was curious what the side slip adds to the descent rate.

Its a Forward Slip...Not a side slip...

I've only ever done side slips. Maybe if I lived somewhere else in the world I may have been doing forward slips instead lol

On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 9:06:06 PM UTC+3, 4881828 wrote:
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 4:40:57 AM UTC-4, wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had an idea of what sort of glide ratio you get with full brakes and slide slip? An instructor used this to correct a very high approach but I was curious what the side slip adds to the descent rate.

Its a Forward Slip...Not a side slip...

A distinction without a difference. The aircraft has no idea whether your fuselage happens to be aligned with a runway or not.

On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 9:06:58 AM UTC-4, Bruce Hoult wrote:
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 9:06:06 PM UTC+3, 4881828 wrote:
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 4:40:57 AM UTC-4, wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had an idea of what sort of glide ratio you get with full brakes and slide slip? An instructor used this to correct a very high approach but I was curious what the side slip adds to the descent rate.

Its a Forward Slip...Not a side slip...

A distinction without a difference. The aircraft has no idea whether your fuselage happens to be aligned with a runway or not.

Just to be clear, what Bruce is correctly stating is that there is no difference between a "side slip" and a "forward slip" with regards to aerodynamics. The difference is relative to ground track when a cross wind is present.

Why not just call them "slips" and eliminate the confusion? ;-)


On 6/9/2016 7:31 AM, pgs wrote:
On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 9:06:58 AM UTC-4, Bruce Hoult wrote:
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 9:06:06 PM UTC+3, 4881828 wrote:
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 4:40:57 AM UTC-4, wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had an idea of what sort of glide ratio you get with full brakes and slide slip? An instructor used this to correct a very high approach but I was curious what the side slip adds to the descent rate.
Its a Forward Slip...Not a side slip...
A distinction without a difference. The aircraft has no idea whether your fuselage happens to be aligned with a runway or not.
Just to be clear, what Bruce is correctly stating is that there is no difference between a "side slip" and a "forward slip" with regards to aerodynamics. The difference is relative to ground track when a cross wind is present.

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Dan, 5J

On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 11:18:12 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
Why not just call them "slips" and eliminate the confusion? ;-)


On 6/9/2016 7:31 AM, pgs wrote:
On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 9:06:58 AM UTC-4, Bruce Hoult wrote:
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 9:06:06 PM UTC+3, 4881828 wrote:
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 4:40:57 AM UTC-4, wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had an idea of what sort of glide ratio you get with full brakes and slide slip? An instructor used this to correct a very high approach but I was curious what the side slip adds to the descent rate.
Its a Forward Slip...Not a side slip...
A distinction without a difference. The aircraft has no idea whether your fuselage happens to be aligned with a runway or not.
Just to be clear, what Bruce is correctly stating is that there is no difference between a "side slip" and a "forward slip" with regards to aerodynamics. The difference is relative to ground track when a cross wind is present.

--
Dan, 5J

To logical. Besides the FAA wants pilot applicants to be tested on these terms
"Exhibits knowledge of the elements related to forward, side,
and turning slips to landing,"