iPhone X and iGlide - the verdict is in.

On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 12:14:10 PM UTC-8, waremark wrote:
As owner of an Oudie IGC (also Samsung S8, Kobo Glo HD, and LX 9000) I think brightness has ceased to be a major issue. I have never encountered any conditions in which the Oudie (pointed at me) is difficult to read. What is the relevance of looking at the instrument at an angle?

The posting was meant to inform those using a cell phone, where brightness has historically been an issue, as battery life has prevented manufacturers from using bright displays. There have been a few threads questioning the usability of iGlide due to this. At least with the X, it is no longer an issue. With a 6 Plus, I only had an issue looking into the sun wearing dark glasses, as I also did with the Avier/Oudie. This seems like less of a problem with the X, which is brighter, higher contrast, and higher resolution than either.

No relevance looking at an angle - just an observation that LCD and OLED displays have different artifacts (dimming and blue shift respectively), and it appears that the LCD suffers more. Of greater relevance is the reflections, and it appears that the anti-reflective coatings on a high end cell phone work better than the matte screen of an inexpensive PDA.

torstai 30. marraskuuta 2017 0.21.42 UTC+2 jfitch kirjoitti:
On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 12:14:10 PM UTC-8, waremark wrote:
As owner of an Oudie IGC (also Samsung S8, Kobo Glo HD, and LX 9000) I think brightness has ceased to be a major issue. I have never encountered any conditions in which the Oudie (pointed at me) is difficult to read. What is the relevance of looking at the instrument at an angle?

The posting was meant to inform those using a cell phone, where brightness has historically been an issue, as battery life has prevented manufacturers from using bright displays. There have been a few threads questioning the usability of iGlide due to this. At least with the X, it is no longer an issue. With a 6 Plus, I only had an issue looking into the sun wearing dark glasses, as I also did with the Avier/Oudie. This seems like less of a problem with the X, which is brighter, higher contrast, and higher resolution than either.

No relevance looking at an angle - just an observation that LCD and OLED displays have different artifacts (dimming and blue shift respectively), and it appears that the LCD suffers more. Of greater relevance is the reflections, and it appears that the anti-reflective coatings on a high end cell phone work better than the matte screen of an inexpensive PDA.

Thanks for the pictures, Iphone X looks good. I would actually like bigger screen than current Oudie has, so Iphone X in Plus-size would be perfect.

If you really want to go big, try iPad mini 4. It works well with iGlide. Easy to read, and has more info boxes than on IPhone.

On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 2:17:44 PM UTC-8, wrote:
If you really want to go big, try iPad mini 4. It works well with iGlide. Easy to read, and has more info boxes than on IPhone.

How specifically are you mounting the iPad Mini in your glider?

The iPad Mini is roughly the same size as the Nexus 7 I used in my glider. Get a Ram system (one inch ball) and screw a diamond ball to a hard shell case for the Mini. Should be too tough. The hard part may be the connection between the vario and the iPad.

Mike

On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 8:27:44 PM UTC-8, SoaringXCellence wrote:
The iPad Mini is roughly the same size as the Nexus 7 I used in my glider.. Get a Ram system (one inch ball) and screw a diamond ball to a hard shell case for the Mini. Should be too tough. The hard part may be the connection between the vario and the iPad.

Mike

I found the iPad mini to be a little dim for my eyes. If you find it adequately readable, you can connect it to the vario with the Air Connect, which serves any LX style serial stream (and I think maybe C302?) over WiFi.

On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:27:44 PM UTC-6, SoaringXCellence wrote:
The iPad Mini is roughly the same size as the Nexus 7 I used in my glider.. Get a Ram system (one inch ball) and screw a diamond ball to a hard shell case for the Mini. Should be too tough. The hard part may be the connection between the vario and the iPad.

Mike

The iPAD mini in my Phoenix just snaps into the mount. I don't know who makes the mount, but it works very well, and there is no modification required to the iPAD.

On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 9:25:55 PM UTC-8, Mike Schumann wrote:
On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:27:44 PM UTC-6, SoaringXCellence wrote:
The iPad Mini is roughly the same size as the Nexus 7 I used in my glider. Get a Ram system (one inch ball) and screw a diamond ball to a hard shell case for the Mini. Should be too tough. The hard part may be the connection between the vario and the iPad.

Mike

The iPAD mini in my Phoenix just snaps into the mount. I don't know who makes the mount, but it works very well, and there is no modification required to the iPAD.

RAM make "roller cradles" for most tablets.
The roller cradle is a very good system.
Jim

Does the iThingy have Bluetooth or wifi?Â* Either of those would be the
way for data transfer to/from the vario.Â* At least that's how it works
in the Android world.

On 11/30/2017 9:27 PM, SoaringXCellence wrote:
The iPad Mini is roughly the same size as the Nexus 7 I used in my glider. Get a Ram system (one inch ball) and screw a diamond ball to a hard shell case for the Mini. Should be too tough. The hard part may be the connection between the vario and the iPad.

Mike

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Dan, 5J

On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 9:47:40 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
Does the iThingy have Bluetooth or wifi?Â* Either of those would be the
way for data transfer to/from the vario.Â* At least that's how it works
in the Android world.

On 11/30/2017 9:27 PM, SoaringXCellence wrote:
The iPad Mini is roughly the same size as the Nexus 7 I used in my glider. Get a Ram system (one inch ball) and screw a diamond ball to a hard shell case for the Mini. Should be too tough. The hard part may be the connection between the vario and the iPad.

Mike

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Dan, 5J

From what I understand...the IPhone can only be connected via wifi to a flight computer, none of the blue tooth connectors popular in soaring will work, but I stand to be corrected.
I also understand that the Iglide system has some type of "climb maximizer", what I don't understand is how well does it work without the normal flight computer information/data stream? Is there anyone actually using it with wifi and than what kind?
WinPilot claims that their CM will work only through wifi connection with a flight computer. But than WP is another story....