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Old December 26th 18, 04:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Why did the PW5 energize the students/others so much more than the Russia? I've
flown both, and they seem nearly the same.

Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)


Eric,

While the performance is almost the same, the Russia has the retractable landing gear. Our model has a very flat wing angle of incidence requiring very good speed control on short final and during the transition to touchdown, to avoid too much tail wheel first. Thirdly, our particular model had very poor braking (we have recently installed a hydraulic brake system). These things spooked the lower time pilots and students.

The PW-5 is configured similarly to the ASK-21. So, we require a couple of flights in the ASK-21 for those who have not flown fiberglass, and to get used to the wheel configuration. The PW-5 is less pitch sensitive than the Russia.

For those who have not flown retractable landing gear, we require a couple of flights with an instructor in the L-23, raising and lowering the landing gear, before soloing the Russia. We watch their checklist procedures closely. In the past, we had several gear up landings so we are trying to reduce this possibility.

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Old January 3rd 19, 02:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Oh, if soaring performance could be measured in smiles rather than miles! The PW-5 and Russia are definitely "world class".

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Old January 3rd 19, 02:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The PW-5 and Russia are definitely "world class".

Only if everyone else at the field is blind. Looking at either one is painful.

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Old January 3rd 19, 04:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I helped fly off the experimental hours on an early PeeWee.Â* It flew
pretty nicely but I never took it much past the field boundary.Â* Oh, and
I couldn't see it from inside the cockpit.Â* Standing outside was a
different matter...

On 1/2/2019 7:49 PM, wrote:
The PW-5 and Russia are definitely "world class".

Only if everyone else at the field is blind. Looking at either one is painful.


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Old January 4th 19, 12:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I enjoyed the PW-5 at a previous club and suspect I took it farther on XC than other club members. But over 50 kt. it was a lawn dart. That said it had a great nose for thermals: much needed because you couldn't afford to skip a thermal.
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Old January 8th 19, 08:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Op vrijdag 4 januari 2019 01:02:04 UTC+1 schreef George Haeh:
I enjoyed the PW-5 at a previous club and suspect I took it farther on XC than other club members. But over 50 kt. it was a lawn dart. That said it had a great nose for thermals: much needed because you couldn't afford to skip a thermal.


PW-5 looks really fun to fly but was more looking at the Albastar AS13.5, miniLAK or 13.5m GP gliders
 




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