A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Military Aviation
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Australia's aquisition of cruise missiles



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old August 27th 04, 06:17 PM
Kevin Brooks
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"zalzon" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:54:41 +1000, The Raven wrote:


snip


Which brings me back to my original theory of US wanting to start an arms
race in the region. It would boost exports of armaments (particularly
long range airpower) now that demand from the middle east countries has
dried up.


Why do you identify only the US? The French and the Eurofighter consortium
countries are also madly marketing their weapons worldwide, to include the
Singapore fighter competition. The RAAF has bought European before, and IIRC
they just recently chose Airbus for their future tanker needs?

Your "theory" is apparently subject to some significant prejudice you have,
along with a healthy dose of paranoia.

Brooks




  #2  
Old August 27th 04, 06:41 PM
zalzon
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:17:01 -0400, Kevin Brooks wrote:

Why do you identify only the US?


For the simple reason Australia does not buy very much from France or
Europe for that matter. The only expection for big ticket purchase items
I can think of are those Colins subs which weren't from Germany or France.

Would australia buy a eurofighter? Or a rafale plane?

Australia is firmly in the orbit of the US.

There's no offence intended, only pointing out the obvious.
  #3  
Old August 27th 04, 08:03 PM
Steve Hix
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

In article ,
zalzon wrote:

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:17:01 -0400, Kevin Brooks wrote:

Why do you identify only the US?


For the simple reason Australia does not buy very much from France or
Europe for that matter. The only expection for big ticket purchase items
I can think of are those Colins subs which weren't from Germany or France.

Would australia buy a eurofighter? Or a rafale plane?

Australia is firmly in the orbit of the US.

There's no offence intended, only pointing out the obvious.


http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/a...977/mar-apr/bu
rt.html

"Three [RAAF] squadrons, Nos. 3, 75, and 77, are equipped with the
French Mirage fighter."

"...over 100 Mirages were built and assembled in Australia under
license."

http://www.scramble.nl/au.htm

RAAF equipment serial numbers list included references to:

- Dassault Mirage III
- Sud Aviation Alouette 3
- Aermacchi MB-326
- Dassault Falcon 20 and Falcon 900
- Pilatus PC-6 and PC-9
- Aerospatiale AS-350

Not counting British kit, it seems they buy European at times.

They've bought from the Frogs in the past, no reason why they might not
do it in future.
  #4  
Old August 27th 04, 09:09 PM
zalzon
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Umm.. why are you quoting purchases made almost a 1/2 century ago in the
1960s?

Mirage III purchases are old hat.

  #5  
Old August 27th 04, 11:25 PM
Steve Hix
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

In article ,
zalzon wrote:

Umm.. why are you quoting purchases made almost a 1/2 century ago in the
1960s?

Mirage III purchases are old hat.


Doesn't help support of arguments that the Ozzies wouldn't buy from
Europe.
  #6  
Old August 28th 04, 01:31 AM
L'acrobat
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"zalzon" wrote in message
news
Umm.. why are you quoting purchases made almost a 1/2 century ago in the
1960s?

Mirage III purchases are old hat.


The Centurion, Leopard 1, L1A1 SLR, F88 Austeyr, RBS70, Rapier, Land Rover,
Unimog, Mag 58, Minimi, Anzac Frigates, the new Amphibs (Spanish or French
are the short list IIRC), ASRAAM, Collins Class subs, Eurocopter Tiger, BAE
Hawk, ASLAV.

All non US products.


  #7  
Old August 28th 04, 03:40 AM
Kevin Brooks
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"zalzon" wrote in message
news
Umm.. why are you quoting purchases made almost a 1/2 century ago in the
1960s?

Mirage III purchases are old hat.


You snipped the earlier reference to the Airbus tanker, which last I knew
was a European product. ISTR the Australian Army also bought their latest
rifles from Europe, along with their new Tiger attack helicopters. What does
all of that add up to? Anything but some kind of US monopoly in terms of
Aussie defense procurement.

Brooks




  #8  
Old August 28th 04, 12:23 AM
The Raven
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

"Steve Hix" wrote in message
...
In article ,
zalzon wrote:

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:17:01 -0400, Kevin Brooks wrote:

Why do you identify only the US?


For the simple reason Australia does not buy very much from France or
Europe for that matter. The only expection for big ticket purchase items
I can think of are those Colins subs which weren't from Germany or
France.

Would australia buy a eurofighter? Or a rafale plane?

Australia is firmly in the orbit of the US.

There's no offence intended, only pointing out the obvious.


http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/a...977/mar-apr/bu
rt.html

"Three [RAAF] squadrons, Nos. 3, 75, and 77, are equipped with the
French Mirage fighter."

"...over 100 Mirages were built and assembled in Australia under
license."

http://www.scramble.nl/au.htm

RAAF equipment serial numbers list included references to:

- Dassault Mirage III
- Sud Aviation Alouette 3
- Aermacchi MB-326
- Dassault Falcon 20 and Falcon 900
- Pilatus PC-6 and PC-9
- Aerospatiale AS-350

Not counting British kit, it seems they buy European at times.

They've bought from the Frogs in the past, no reason why they might not
do it in future.


Such as the Eurocopter Tigre (Aussie Tiger) and perhaps the NH90.


--
The Raven
http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/batfinkquote.mp3
** President of the ozemail.* and uunet.* NG's
** since August 15th 2000.


  #10  
Old August 28th 04, 04:47 AM
demon
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Anzac class frigates based on German Meko 200 frigate design, and system
integrator is Saabtech

"zalzon" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:17:01 -0400, Kevin Brooks wrote:

Why do you identify only the US?


For the simple reason Australia does not buy very much from France or
Europe for that matter. The only expection for big ticket purchase items
I can think of are those Colins subs which weren't from Germany or France.

Would australia buy a eurofighter? Or a rafale plane?

Australia is firmly in the orbit of the US.



 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What is missile defense? An expensive fraud Bush needs Poland as a future nuclear battlefield Paul J. Adam Military Aviation 1 August 9th 04 08:29 PM
Raptor Program Goes On Offensive Ed Rasimus Military Aviation 4 May 25th 04 11:45 PM
Pigeon guided missiles?! Jim Doyle Military Aviation 11 February 17th 04 06:35 AM
No uranium, no munitions, no missiles, no programmes Michael Petukhov Military Aviation 50 October 22nd 03 10:12 PM
Poland: French Missile Report Was Wrong Michael Petukhov Military Aviation 8 October 7th 03 10:54 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.