Kerry?

In article ,
on Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:15:49 -0500,
John A. Weeks III attempted to say .....

In article , Steve
Hix wrote:

You need to check actual fact: "outsourcing" works both ways, and we
have more pay gained from jobs moved to the U.S. than lost to moving
other jobs offshore.

Great. Now tell that to the people in the midwest where entire
cities are folding up and blowing away due to job loss. Tell
that to the long term unemployeed who have lost thier jobs,
their unemployment has run out, and now have lost their healthcare.
Data out yesterday proves the point that almost 2-million more
people live in poverty today than when W took office. Now tell
me that it is good for the economy.

And it started long before GWB came to be president.

Think Steel mills....


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In article t, Tank
Fixer wrote:

Great. Now tell that to the people in the midwest where entire
cities are folding up and blowing away due to job loss. Tell
that to the long term unemployeed who have lost thier jobs,
their unemployment has run out, and now have lost their healthcare.
Data out yesterday proves the point that almost 2-million more
people live in poverty today than when W took office. Now tell
me that it is good for the economy.

And it started long before GWB came to be president.

Think Steel mills....

Good example. Steel imports are at historic levels while we
send raw materials and scrap iron overseas. It may have started
years ago, but Bush put it in high gear. His goal is a 3rd
world America with his "base" of haves and have-mores, and
the rest of the public working $3 per hour fast food jobs.
They may not have gotten to your job yet, but look out, they
are coming after it sooner or later. Just like the Catholics
stood bye as the Nazi's took the Jews, not realizing that
they were next on Hitler's list. Don't let America end up
like the Polish ghettos of the early 40's. That is why it
is so important to vote for Kerry/Edwards. Four more years
of Bush and there will not be anything left to save.

-john-

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"John A. Weeks III" wrote in message
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Good example. Steel imports are at historic levels while we
send raw materials and scrap iron overseas. It may have started
years ago, but Bush put it in high gear. His goal is a 3rd
world America with his "base" of haves and have-mores, and
the rest of the public working $3 per hour fast food jobs.
They may not have gotten to your job yet, but look out, they
are coming after it sooner or later. Just like the Catholics
stood bye as the Nazi's took the Jews, not realizing that
they were next on Hitler's list. Don't let America end up
like the Polish ghettos of the early 40's. That is why it
is so important to vote for Kerry/Edwards. Four more years
of Bush and there will not be anything left to save.


Kerry plans to send more jobs overseas.

"John A. Weeks III" wrote in message
...


Good example. Steel imports are at historic levels while we
send raw materials and scrap iron overseas. It may have started
years ago, but Bush put it in high gear. His goal is a 3rd
world America with his "base" of haves and have-mores, and
the rest of the public working $3 per hour fast food jobs.
They may not have gotten to your job yet, but look out, they
are coming after it sooner or later. Just like the Catholics
stood bye as the Nazi's took the Jews, not realizing that
they were next on Hitler's list. Don't let America end up
like the Polish ghettos of the early 40's. That is why it
is so important to vote for Kerry/Edwards. Four more years
of Bush and there will not be anything left to save.


Another "Sky is Falling!" Democrat. What a miserable bunch of pessimists,
no faith at all in the United States ability to compete in the world despite
the fact that our economy is the envy of the world. Truly I pity the bunch.

Jarg

Subject: Kerry?
From: "Jarg"
Date: 8/27/2004 3:25 PM Pacific Standard Time
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"John A. Weeks III" wrote in message
...


Good example. Steel imports are at historic levels while we
send raw materials and scrap iron overseas. It may have started
years ago, but Bush put it in high gear. His goal is a 3rd
world America with his "base" of haves and have-mores, and
the rest of the public working $3 per hour fast food jobs.
They may not have gotten to your job yet, but look out, they
are coming after it sooner or later. Just like the Catholics
stood bye as the Nazi's took the Jews, not realizing that
they were next on Hitler's list. Don't let America end up
like the Polish ghettos of the early 40's. That is why it
is so important to vote for Kerry/Edwards. Four more years
of Bush and there will not be anything left to save.


Another "Sky is Falling!" Democrat. What a miserable bunch of pessimists,
no faith at all in the United States ability to compete in the world despite
the fact that our economy is the envy of the world. Truly I pity the bunch.

Jarg


We have faith in the Unuted States. we just have no faith in the Bush, Cheney
Rumsfeld NEOCON screw ups.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Another "Sky is Falling!" Democrat. What a miserable bunch of
pessimists,
no faith at all in the United States ability to compete in the world
despite
the fact that our economy is the envy of the world. Truly I pity the
bunch.

Jarg


We have faith in the Unuted States. we just have no faith in the Bush,
Cheney
Rumsfeld NEOCON screw ups.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer


They aren't neocons. And it is conservative Rebublican economic policies
that have helped make the United States economy so strong.

Jarg

Subject: Kerry?
From: "Jarg"
Date: 8/28/2004 5:07 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:


"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Another "Sky is Falling!" Democrat. What a miserable bunch of
pessimists,
no faith at all in the United States ability to compete in the world
despite
the fact that our economy is the envy of the world. Truly I pity the
bunch.

Jarg


We have faith in the Unuted States. we just have no faith in the Bush,
Cheney
Rumsfeld NEOCON screw ups.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer


They aren't neocons. And it is conservative Rebublican economic policies
that have helped make the United States economy so strong.

Jarg



The economy is down the toilet. The poor are getting poorer. All the best jobs
are being sent overseas to pay off the corporations that have supported Bush
with big $$$$. We have a record number of children in poverty without
healthcare And half the americans aren't sure that that they will have a job
tomorrow. The economy is only good for the very rich. But the neocons were
always out to support the rich so that is nothing new. And let's not even talk
about the prescription medication fraud the neocons are pulling on the
American people in favor the the theiving HMO's.
We have the best administration money can buy But that will all change in
November.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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The economy is down the toilet.


If 3-4% annual growth is "down the toilet" then most developed countries
would love to be there!


The poor are getting poorer


Unfortunately the lower wage earners are always hit hardest by recession. I
have yet to hear of a solution to that which makes economic sense. The good
news is the poor of America are still well off by world standards.


.. All the best jobs
are being sent overseas to pay off the corporations that have supported
Bush
with big $$$$.


I have a good job, and I know plently of other people who have good jobs
and little risk of being outsourced. Also, you forget all the great jobs
that are being insourced because of Rebublican economic principles. The
United States is very competitive in the world economy and the envy of most
of the world.


We have a record number of children in poverty without
healthcare


We also have a record number of people, so that statement might be a bit
misleading. Incidentally most of those children qualify for free health
care in case you didn't know. Like most Americans, I am not convinced I
want the government in the health care business.


And half the americans aren't sure that that they will have a job
tomorrow.


So it's the government's responsibility to make people sure they will have a
job tomorrow comrade? Pretty much every country that has had a system where
employment was guaranteed (for example the assorted communist nations) was a
dismal economic failure and ended up switching to the capitalist model.


The economy is only good for the very rich.


I'm not that rich, but I'm doing just fine thank you, as are most Americans.
Unemployment is low by historical standards, growth is good by historical
standards. We have one of the best economies on the planet!


But the neocons were
always out to support the rich so that is nothing new.


To whom are you referring?


And let's not even talk
about the prescription medication fraud the neocons are pulling on the
American people in favor the the theiving HMO's.


Oooh, theiving HMOs! How dramatic. If only we could nationalize those evil
capitalist businesses, eh comrade?!


We have the best administration money can buy But that will all change in
November.


I wish you would hold your breath waiting!

Jarg



Arthur "The Sky is Falling" Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

ArtKramr wrote:

The economy is down the toilet.

No its not.

All the best jobs
are being sent overseas to pay off the corporations that have supported Bush
with big $$$$.

You are confusing the Bush and Clinton administrations. Bush was govenor of
Texas when Clinton and the rest of the DNC signed and fully supported NAFTA,
now suddenly when the predictable happens you and the other short sighted
Democrats try to blame Bush.

And half the americans aren't sure that that they will have a job
tomorrow.

So you're claiming we're on the verge of 50% unemployment? Not by a long shot.
If half the employed U.S. population is concerned about their jobs its because
the DNC wants it that way.

And let's not even talk
about the prescription medication fraud the neocons are pulling on the
American people in favor the the theiving HMO's.

HMOs were created by Hillary Clinton and the Democrats, if you have issue with
the job they're doing take it up with them.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

From: "Jarg"
Date: 8/28/2004 7:07 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:


"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...


Another "Sky is Falling!" Democrat. What a miserable bunch of
pessimists,
no faith at all in the United States ability to compete in the world
despite
the fact that our economy is the envy of the world. Truly I pity the
bunch.

Jarg


We have faith in the Unuted States. we just have no faith in the Bush,
Cheney
Rumsfeld NEOCON screw ups.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer


They aren't neocons. And it is conservative Rebublican economic policies
that have helped make the United States economy so strong.

Jarg

You missed the point. Art thinks conservatism is a recent invention hence the
term "neocon" which he obviously thinks is a dirty word. I was conservative
long before anyone thought up "neocon" and I believe most of the administration
was too.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired