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This was your quote:
I fail to see the reasoning behind demonstrating my FAR/AIM research skills, as it pertains to my ability to fly safely. I see that it is recommended to bring the book to the ride, but since I've had no need to crack open the thing in my last 4 years of flying, I don't see the point. I think a DE should test the real world, not abstract FAA mumbo jumbo. The implication is that it is a waste for you to even own a copy because you have had no need to use it, and it does not represent the "real world". To you it is abstract FAA mumbo jumbo. I don't think I mischaracterized or distorted what you said at all. One of the things I don't like on Usenet is that people write things that they didn't really mean or think through, and then get insulted when someone else takes it for what it says without somehow knowing that the author didn't really mean it... Admittedly, I have done it too. But I try not to take it so seriously when someone else reiterates my comments and all of a sudden they don't sound so good anymore. Anyway, good luck on your test. I just got my Instrument Rating in February. I brought my FAR/AIM along, and the DE not only grilled me until he could catch me on something I didn't know, but he kept going until he found something that I didn't even know where to look up. When I went to the FAR/AIM, though, we used his copy, not mine... Wizard of Draws wrote in news:BCC254B4.E5AF%jeffbREMOVE@REMOVEwizardofdraws .com: On 5/8/04 2:53 AM, in article , "Judah" wrote: I guess my thought was the guy was already claiming that he would never have a reason to open the book in real life, so the thought that he would consider buying an updated version seemed unlikely... One of the reasons I dislike getting into long discussions on Usenet is that any position quickly becomes mischaracterized, misquoted or grossly distorted, because people are unable or unwilling to *read* what was actually written. It's extremely odd to me that pilots can be so anal retentive in so many aspects, yet when it comes to reading comprehension in newsgroups, they fail so miserably. Judah, please reread my post that you "quoted" from. Pay particular attention to the tense that I used and compare it to the tense that you place my statements in. That said, I will take the advice given here and take a current FAR/AIM to my checkride when it is scheduled. |
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On 5/8/04 5:19 PM, in article ,
"Judah" wrote: This was your quote: I fail to see the reasoning behind demonstrating my FAR/AIM research skills, as it pertains to my ability to fly safely. I see that it is recommended to bring the book to the ride, but since I've had no need to crack open the thing in my last 4 years of flying, I don't see the point. I think a DE should test the real world, not abstract FAA mumbo jumbo. The implication is that it is a waste for you to even own a copy because you have had no need to use it, and it does not represent the "real world". To you it is abstract FAA mumbo jumbo. I don't think I mischaracterized or distorted what you said at all. One of the things I don't like on Usenet is that people write things that they didn't really mean or think through, and then get insulted when someone else takes it for what it says without somehow knowing that the author didn't really mean it... Admittedly, I have done it too. But I try not to take it so seriously when someone else reiterates my comments and all of a sudden they don't sound so good anymore. Anyway, good luck on your test. I just got my Instrument Rating in February. I brought my FAR/AIM along, and the DE not only grilled me until he could catch me on something I didn't know, but he kept going until he found something that I didn't even know where to look up. When I went to the FAR/AIM, though, we used his copy, not mine... I meant no implication beyond what I wrote. I wrote that I had not had a reason to open the book in the last 4 years of my real world flying, *not* that I would never see a reason to use it in the future. I have no crystal ball and cannot and did not make such a claim. As for the "FAA mumbo jumbo", it is precisely the debates that go on in this and the other aviation newsgroups about the interpretation of the FARs that make me label them as such. Often we can't agree among ourselves what they mean, and as a lowly 250 hour, non-lawyer pilot, I can assure you that I will not be arguing the legal nuances of any of them with anyone. What better definition of mumbo jumbo could anyone require? I will say again that your experience with a DE digging at your knowledge base until he finds an obscure question you do not know and are forced to research while he looks on, which seems to be the norm according to most accounts given here, seems pointless and only purpose appears to be to inflate the ego of the DE. I recognize that I could be wrong. Thank you for the good wishes and fly safe. -- Jeff 'The Wizard of Draws' Bucchino Cartoons with a Touch of Magic www.wizardofdraws.com www.cartoonclipart.com |
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David B. Cole wrote:
Andrew, I'm taking the checkride with Marcus. Yeah, I guess this means that I will have to join the PFC. :-) Dave No, you don't *have* to. I read once that someone didn't, and it was days before he was hunted down. In case I don't see you (will you be at MAPA?), good luck. But if you want to discuss my own experiences with your DE... - Andrew |
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David B. Cole wrote:
Today the plan was to fly to Sussex (FWN) and Lincoln Park (N07) for GPS approaches. I don't think you realize just how difficult this is. There's something less than zero setup time between Caldwell and those airports. After my rating, I used them to exercize the speed with which I could go from zero to completely briefed and set up approach. The first time I did it, I think I was finally set up as I was taxiing back to depart Sussex. Besides, one bad day and you'll ditch the test? The test itself isn't so strict. - Andrew |
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Andrew,
Well, we went up today and performed the GPS Rwy 3 into Sussex, GPS 19 into Lincoln Park, and NBD-GPS Rwy 22 back into Caldwell and everything went well. I was determined to redeem myself after my performance last week. It's amazing how much influence your mindset has on flying, how it changes day to day, and how small things that aren't even at the top of your mind can impact you. But today I was determined to fly the way I knew I could and walk away with a sense of accomplishment. I think Stanley only made two or three minor comments once we were back on the ground. See you at MAPA tomorrow. And to everyone else, thanks for the encouragement Dave |
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Andrew,
Well, we went up today and performed the GPS Rwy 3 into Sussex, GPS 19 into Lincoln Park, and NBD-GPS Rwy 22 back into Caldwell and everything went well. I was determined to redeem myself after my performance last week. It's amazing how much influence your mindset has on flying, how it changes day to day, and how small things that aren't even at the top of your mind can impact you. But today I was determined to fly the way I knew I could and walk away with a sense of accomplishment. I think Stanley only made two or three minor comments once we were back on the ground. See you at MAPA tomorrow. And to everyone else, thanks for the encouragement Dave |
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David B. Cole wrote:
It's amazing how much influence your mindset has on flying, how it changes day to day, and how small things that aren't even at the top of your mind can impact you. It looks like you've picked up (and shared) an extremely valuable piece of information. Mindset is definitely one of the factors to be checked in making the go/no-go decision. - Andrew |
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