Electric locomotion will replace internal combustion

On Sep 19, 12:04*am, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 18, 6:25*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 18, 5:06*pm, wrote:

Or maybe you don't know that trains only run on tracks?

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Wow! *Is that right? *Well, that changes everything.

Yep, it means your wet dream of replacing trucks with trains in the US
is just that, a wet dream.

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You cannot replace trucks with trains.

Correct, as I have been saying all along.

Good to see the light bulb finally come on.

Who ever said that trains could replace trucks? I
certainly didn't. You said it was my..."wet dream" as
I recall, but that's just another example of your
revisionistic debating style.

You can create a modern infrastructure that promotes
electric trains to take over a percentage of the total annual
freight being moved.

That means electifying thousands and thousands of miles of track to accomplish
nothing more than to replace diesel electric locomotives with pure electric
locomotive.

Good to see the light bulb finally come on.

Yes, electro-magnetic.

Never going to happen.

A lot of things aren't going to happen that should.

snip trucker talk

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Mark
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On Sep 18, 11:55*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
Ok, for starters, here's 2 that beat your
40mile...$41,000 dollars. I think there's a least a dozen
more.

Nissan leaf, 100miles, $25,280.00
http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electr...n.39666952.&dc....

Wheego whip, 100miles, $26,495
http://wheego.net/more/

OK, you found a couple that make 100 miles that will be on the market
any day now.

Wrong. I *posted* a couple. There are quite a few.

So I guess all that crap about Spain, and 40 miles, and
"rich ecowhiner" was just that...a pile of crap. That's ok,
a lot of people are still unfamiliar with all this new stuff.

Where's all the cars you claimed where out there that get 120 miles on a
charge?

Remember? You won't let me post them because it's against
your rules which narrow the debate down to: price after rebates,
current dealers that have websites, cars that were advertised last
spring, and vehicles that smell like lemon pledge.

Kinda turns a blind eye to all the others. Therefore we're not
really getting a true picture of what's emerging both in
technology and demographics of interest.

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Mark


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Jim Pennino

Mark wrote:
On Sep 18, 11:55Â*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
Ok, for starters, here's 2 that beat your
40mile...$41,000 dollars. I think there's a least a dozen
more.

Nissan leaf, 100miles, $25,280.00
http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electr...n.39666952.&dc...

Wheego whip, 100miles, $26,495
http://wheego.net/more/

OK, you found a couple that make 100 miles that will be on the market
any day now.

Wrong. I *posted* a couple. There are quite a few.

You have posted none that make your 120 mile claim.

So I guess all that crap about Spain, and 40 miles, and
"rich ecowhiner" was just that...a pile of crap.

Show me the sales figures for the pure electric cars.

In Spain, it was all of 16 for the year for all models.

Put up or shut up.

Where's all the cars you claimed where out there that get 120 miles on a
charge?

Remember? You won't let me post them because it's against
your rules which narrow the debate down to: price after rebates,
current dealers that have websites, cars that were advertised last
spring, and vehicles that smell like lemon pledge.

Utter nonsense.

The basic criteria is 120 miles on a charge like you claimed, then I want
to know when it goes to market if it isn't already available and how much
it costs.

So far the only thing you've been able to come up with is a one off prototype
that isn't for sale.



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Mark wrote:
On Sep 19, 12:04Â*am, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 18, 6:25Â*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 18, 5:06Â*pm, wrote:

Or maybe you don't know that trains only run on tracks?

--
Jim Pennino

Wow! Â*Is that right? Â*Well, that changes everything.

Yep, it means your wet dream of replacing trucks with trains in the US
is just that, a wet dream.

--
Jim Pennino

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You cannot replace trucks with trains.

Correct, as I have been saying all along.

Good to see the light bulb finally come on.

Who ever said that trains could replace trucks? I
certainly didn't. You said it was my..."wet dream" as
I recall, but that's just another example of your
revisionistic debating style.

You can create a modern infrastructure that promotes
electric trains to take over a percentage of the total annual
freight being moved.

That means electifying thousands and thousands of miles of track to accomplish
nothing more than to replace diesel electric locomotives with pure electric
locomotive.

Good to see the light bulb finally come on.

Yes, electro-magnetic.

Electromagnetic what?

You are babbling again.


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On Sep 19, 10:35*am, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 19, 12:04*am, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 18, 6:25*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 18, 5:06*pm, wrote:

Or maybe you don't know that trains only run on tracks?

--
Jim Pennino

Wow! *Is that right? *Well, that changes everything.

Yep, it means your wet dream of replacing trucks with trains in the US
is just that, a wet dream.

--
Jim Pennino

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You cannot replace trucks with trains.

Correct, as I have been saying all along.

Good to see the light bulb finally come on.

Who ever said that trains could replace trucks? I
certainly didn't. You said it was my..."wet dream" as
I recall, but that's just another example of your
revisionistic debating style.

You can create a modern infrastructure that promotes
electric trains to take over a percentage of the total annual
freight being moved.

That means electifying thousands and thousands of miles of track to accomplish
nothing more than to replace diesel electric locomotives with pure electric
locomotive.

Good to see the light bulb finally come on.

Yes, electro-magnetic.

Electromagnetic what?

Rail system. Did I really need to explain?

You are babbling again.

Oh I think you're just playing stupid.

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Mark

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Jim Pennino

On Sep 19, 10:34*am, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 18, 11:55*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
Ok, for starters, here's 2 that beat your
40mile...$41,000 dollars. I think there's a least a dozen
more.

Nissan leaf, 100miles, $25,280.00
http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electr...n.39666952.&dc...

Wheego whip, 100miles, $26,495
http://wheego.net/more/

OK, you found a couple that make 100 miles that will be on the market
any day now.

Wrong. I *posted* a couple. There are quite a few.

You have posted none that make your 120 mile claim.

Not on the market till next year.

So I guess all that crap about Spain, and 40 miles, and
"rich ecowhiner" was just that...a pile of crap.

Show me the sales figures for the pure electric cars.

My Time machine is in the shop.

In Spain, it was all of 16 for the year for all models.

Put up or shut up.

Your claims don't match the reality which is
occuring in the automotive industry.


Where's all the cars you claimed where out there that get 120 miles on a
charge?

Remember? *You won't let me post them because it's against
your rules which narrow the debate down to: price after rebates,
current dealers that have websites, cars that were advertised last
spring, and vehicles that smell like lemon pledge.

Utter nonsense.

Ok, you never mentioned lemon pledge.

The rest is true, and limits evaluation.

The basic criteria is 120 miles on a charge like you claimed, then
I want
to know when it goes to market if it isn't already available and how much
it costs.

I just haven't supplied you with this info. You
can find it I'm sure.

So far the only thing you've been able to come up with is a one off
prototype
that isn't for sale.

True. That is the total sum of my effort to supply you with
this data.

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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 08:34:11 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:

Not on the market till next year.

So I guess all that crap about Spain, and 40 miles, and
"rich ecowhiner" was just that...a pile of crap.

Show me the sales figures for the pure electric cars.

My Time machine is in the shop.

Run on an electric motor?

*ROFL*
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:

Rail system. Did I really need to explain?

You are babbling again.

Oh I think you're just playing stupid.

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Which is the difference between you and us. You *aren't* playing. LOL
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On Sep 20, 4:47*am, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 08:34:11 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:
Not on the market till next year.

So I guess all that crap about Spain, and 40 miles, and
"rich ecowhiner" was just that...a pile of crap.

Show me the sales figures for the pure electric cars.

My Time machine is in the shop.

Run on an electric motor?

*ROFL*

The flatteries bat

Mark wrote:
On Sep 19, 10:34Â*am, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 18, 11:55Â*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
Ok, for starters, here's 2 that beat your
40mile...$41,000 dollars. I think there's a least a dozen
more.

Nissan leaf, 100miles, $25,280.00
http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electr...n.39666952.&dc...

Wheego whip, 100miles, $26,495
http://wheego.net/more/

OK, you found a couple that make 100 miles that will be on the market
any day now.

Wrong. I *posted* a couple. There are quite a few.

You have posted none that make your 120 mile claim.

Not on the market till next year.

So all your arm waving about production not being able to keep up with
demand was just that, arm waving?


So I guess all that crap about Spain, and 40 miles, and
"rich ecowhiner" was just that...a pile of crap.

Show me the sales figures for the pure electric cars.

My Time machine is in the shop.

So all your arm waving about production not being able to keep up with
demand was just that, arm waving?

In Spain, it was all of 16 for the year for all models.

Put up or shut up.

Your claims don't match the reality which is
occuring in the automotive industry.

"Spain's electric car sales off target"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10931064

Oh, and I made a slight error, it wasn't 16 sold this year, it was 15 with
one sold last year.

Yessiree, people are just clamoring to buy those things.


Where's all the cars you claimed where out there that get 120 miles on a
charge?

Remember? Â*You won't let me post them because it's against
your rules which narrow the debate down to: price after rebates,
current dealers that have websites, cars that were advertised last
spring, and vehicles that smell like lemon pledge.

Utter nonsense.

Ok, you never mentioned lemon pledge.

More nonsense.

The rest is true, and limits evaluation.

Bull****, learn to read.

The basic criteria is 120 miles on a charge like you claimed, then
I want
to know when it goes to market if it isn't already available and how much
it costs.

I just haven't supplied you with this info. You
can find it I'm sure.

Nope, because it doesn't exist and all your claims of lots of pure electric
cars that go 120 miles on a charge were pulled out of your ass.


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