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Old July 20th 06, 04:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
steve[_1_]
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Default Student practices landing with gear up

Bummer,

I had the Arrow reserved with the flight center I use, for next week and for
a couple of days in August.

They just sent me an email stating that a student pilot from the flight
center they share it with, landed it with the gear up. How embarrassing,
especially since the plane has an automatic gear down deployment once it
drops below 100mph and the manifold and rpm resemble a landing
configuration. He/she must have shut it off. It has a loud alarm that sounds
off in that situation, so I don't know what might have happened..

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Steve

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with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci


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Old July 20th 06, 04:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Flyingmonk[_1_]
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Default Student practices landing with gear up


steve wrote:
Bummer,

I had the Arrow reserved with the flight center I use, for next week and for
a couple of days in August.

They just sent me an email stating that a student pilot from the flight
center they share it with, landed it with the gear up. How embarrassing,
especially since the plane has an automatic gear down deployment once it
drops below 100mph and the manifold and rpm resemble a landing
configuration. He/she must have shut it off. It has a loud alarm that sounds
off in that situation, so I don't know what might have happened..

--
Thanks,

Steve

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci


I think the statement(I can't remember who said it first) goes
something like this, "First rule of thumb when designing fool proof
anything is never to underestimate a fool."

Monk

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Old August 2nd 06, 03:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
ET
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Default Student practices landing with gear up

"Flyingmonk" wrote in
s.com:


steve wrote:
Bummer,

I had the Arrow reserved with the flight center I use, for next week
and for a couple of days in August.

They just sent me an email stating that a student pilot from the
flight center they share it with, landed it with the gear up. How
embarrassing, especially since the plane has an automatic gear down
deployment once it drops below 100mph and the manifold and rpm
resemble a landing configuration. He/she must have shut it off. It
has a loud alarm that sounds off in that situation, so I don't know
what might have happened..

--
Thanks,

Steve

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci


I think the statement(I can't remember who said it first) goes
something like this, "First rule of thumb when designing fool proof
anything is never to underestimate a fool."

Monk


Read sig.. grin

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completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams
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Old August 19th 06, 04:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Flyingmonk[_1_]
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Default Student practices landing with gear up


ET wrote:
"Flyingmonk" wrote in
s.com:


steve wrote:
Bummer,

I had the Arrow reserved with the flight center I use, for next week
and for a couple of days in August.

They just sent me an email stating that a student pilot from the
flight center they share it with, landed it with the gear up. How
embarrassing, especially since the plane has an automatic gear down
deployment once it drops below 100mph and the manifold and rpm
resemble a landing configuration. He/she must have shut it off. It
has a loud alarm that sounds off in that situation, so I don't know
what might have happened..

--
Thanks,

Steve

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci


I think the statement(I can't remember who said it first) goes
something like this, "First rule of thumb when designing fool proof
anything is never to underestimate a fool."

Monk


Read sig.. grin

--
-- ET :-)

"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams


Hey thanks ET 8^)

Monk

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Old July 20th 06, 05:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
BTIZ
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Default Student practices landing with gear up

I thought that auto extend feature had been disabled by a SB on most
Arrows.. maybe only the older ones..
BT

"steve" wrote in message
. ..
Bummer,

I had the Arrow reserved with the flight center I use, for next week and
for a couple of days in August.

They just sent me an email stating that a student pilot from the flight
center they share it with, landed it with the gear up. How embarrassing,
especially since the plane has an automatic gear down deployment once it
drops below 100mph and the manifold and rpm resemble a landing
configuration. He/she must have shut it off. It has a loud alarm that
sounds off in that situation, so I don't know what might have happened..

--
Thanks,

Steve

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci




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Old July 20th 06, 05:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Default Student practices landing with gear up


BTIZ wrote:
I thought that auto extend feature had been disabled by a SB on most
Arrows.. maybe only the older ones..
BT



Isn't that the one that had the battle of the SBs? SB says disable it,
SB says reenable it, SB says disable it etc?

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Old July 20th 06, 05:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
gatt
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Default Student practices landing with gear up


"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:tADvg.12811$6w.4234@fed1read11...
I thought that auto extend feature had been disabled by a SB on most
Arrows.. maybe only the older ones..


The '73 that I fly still has the auto-extend feature. If he was practicing
commercial maneuvers he might have disabled it with the override switch and
then forgotten to turn it off.

GUMPS. I hope I never forget it.

-c


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Old July 21st 06, 10:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dylan Smith
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Default Student practices landing with gear up

On 2006-07-20, gatt wrote:
GUMPS. I hope I never forget it.


GUMP does not stand for Gas, Undercarriage, Mixture, Prop.

It actually stands for:

G - Gear Down
U - Undercarriage down
M - Make sure the wheels are down
P - Put the wheels down

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Old July 21st 06, 10:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dylan Smith
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Default Student practices landing with gear up

Bad form following up to one's own post, but I forgot to add that if the
gear up incident in the Arrow was bad, consider the fate our Grumman
met. It's fixed gear and it got landed gear up. Or rather gear removed -
a botched landing resulted in two of the three gear legs being torn off
- go around from a downwind landing, and went through the hedge at the
end of the runway...

http://www.alioth.net/pics/DeadGrumman-2006-06-17/

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Old July 22nd 06, 01:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Student practices landing with gear up


"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
...
Bad form following up to one's own post, but I forgot to add that if the
gear up incident in the Arrow was bad, consider the fate our Grumman
met. It's fixed gear and it got landed gear up. Or rather gear removed -
a botched landing resulted in two of the three gear legs being torn off
- go around from a downwind landing, and went through the hedge at the
end of the runway...

http://www.alioth.net/pics/DeadGrumman-2006-06-17/


Did you do that, or was it a club plane, or something?
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Jim in NC

 




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