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  #61  
Old February 20th 07, 10:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
Morgans[_2_]
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"Michael Nouak" wrote

Yeah, this is especially true when the religious arguments start up. You
know, like:
Hi-wing or low-wing.
Slips with flaps.


Or the ever popular "downwind turn." g
--
Jim in NC

P.S. Do yourself a favor, and don't respond in any way to the Mxsmanic
character. If you do, you may find that people no longer respond to your
messages, as they will have put you in a blocked poster file.


  #62  
Old February 20th 07, 11:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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"Michael Nouak" wrote in message
...

"Andrew Sarangan" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
oups.com...
snip
I have learned more from here than from any other source. Once in a
while there will be some ballyhoo over someone or something, and
people will threaten to leave. There will be a mass exodus, and then


Yeah, this is especially true when the religious arguments start up. You
know, like:
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.
.
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.
.
.
Hi-wing or low-wing.
Slips with flaps.

;-)))

--
Michael Nouak
remove "nospamfor" to reply:



Boy, now you gone and done it. NOBODY hides under the wing of a Mooney
in a rainstorm.

Al G


  #63  
Old February 20th 07, 11:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]
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Al G wrote:
Boy, now you gone and done it. NOBODY hides under the wing of a Mooney
in a rainstorm.




No, but I've seen a pilot climb out of one in a rainstorm and getting down on
his knees in a mud puddle, kiss the ground. Happened at RDU back in 1989.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
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  #64  
Old February 21st 07, 12:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in message
...
Al G wrote:
Boy, now you gone and done it. NOBODY hides under the wing of a Mooney
in a rainstorm.




No, but I've seen a pilot climb out of one in a rainstorm and getting down
on his knees in a mud puddle, kiss the ground. Happened at RDU back in
1989.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

I've done a little "ground kissing" myself. I lost the engine due to
induction icing, at night solid IFR, over mountains. Yea, I know, I
shouldn't have been there. 27 miles later with my VERY best downwind glide
there I was just a kissin up a storm.

Al G


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Old February 21st 07, 03:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]
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Al G wrote:
I've done a little "ground kissing" myself. I lost the engine due to
induction icing, at night solid IFR, over mountains. Yea, I know, I
shouldn't have been there. 27 miles later with my VERY best downwind glide
there I was just a kissin up a storm.




It's a little known fact that one can extend a glide just on the vacuum power of
an excited sphincter.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
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  #66  
Old February 21st 07, 03:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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On Feb 18, 8:33 pm, wrote:
What methods do you deploy? How many folks use a kneeboard? What
kind of timer (analog or digital stopwatch) do you use, and where do
you put it? Where do you keep the charts, approach plates, and
scratch paper? How many people write down every clearance, heading,
altitude and frequency change? How do you keep from dropping your pen
(or pencil)? Is it on a string? Where do you put in when not in
use? Velcro? Your pocket?

I've read the books, but I just wonder how people cope in real life.
Rod Machado talks about using a clipboard (with extra clips on the 3
other sides) in his excellent training manual. This seems like a good
idea to me.

Steve
PP ASEL
Instrument student


ASA lapboard with map on left, flight log on right, pen clipped to
board. + yoke mount that contains approach chart, additional pen, and
digital timer. Backup charts in own pocket in flight bag in back
seat. Approach charts for departure, destination airport and
alternate taken out of book and placed in spiral binder from
Sporty's. Pens are fat ones that don't easily slip out of holder. I
use Jepp's flight planner which prints airport freqs, provides space
for clearances, ATIS, etc. And the Garmin 430 to show all courses in
advance.

I don't write down enroute altitude changes or freqs any more, just
the initial ones. Departure heading I just put into the DG bug.

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Old February 22nd 07, 05:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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On 2007-02-21, Blanche wrote:

May I offer a gender-based observation -- bra strap. I usually wear
a polo/knit shirt to fly so that I can turn the collar up so that the
shoulder harness doesn't annoy my neck. That means I can easily stash
a couple pens in the bra strap. And yes, I've dropped pens but there's
always a couple in the side pocket next to my knee as well as another
one at the bra strap.


For pens, I daisy-chain a bunch of rubber bands, with one end going
through the hole in a spring clip, and the other end is attached to a
pen by a strip of duct tape. I clip the pen to the pad/lapboard and
never lose it. A second one in the side pocket in case the pen runs
dry unexpectedly makes adequate backup.

For the neck rub (not in a good way), I've seen people who do long
distance road trips install a fleece pad that you position on the
shoulder strap. I bet you could find something in an auto-supply
store.


Morris
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Old February 22nd 07, 01:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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Journeyman wrote:
On 2007-02-21, Blanche wrote:

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For the neck rub (not in a good way), I've seen people who do long
distance road trips install a fleece pad that you position on the
shoulder strap. I bet you could find something in an auto-supply
store.


Morris


Years ago I installed the BAS shoulder harnesses in my Skyhawk. They
came with anti chafe attachments for this reason that were velcroed
around the nylon belts. I bet one could make something like that out of
fleece or other soft material.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI
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Old February 22nd 07, 02:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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Ross wrote:
Journeyman wrote:
For the neck rub (not in a good way), I've seen people who do long
distance road trips install a fleece pad that you position on the
shoulder strap. I bet you could find something in an auto-supply
store.


Years ago I installed the BAS shoulder harnesses in my Skyhawk. They
came with anti chafe attachments for this reason that were velcroed
around the nylon belts. I bet one could make something like that out of
fleece or other soft material.


Ross, Morris, et al.

When I was flying the warrior with the single shoulder harness (as in
a car), I had one of the fleece, slip-on-clamp-with-velcro from my
local discount store. Now in the cherokee, I have after-market
Y-shoulder harness. (OEM, TSO, STC, etc) I haven't found anything
that will work. Altho, now that you bring up the fleece gadget, I
bet I could get a couple pieces of fleece and sew them into a Y,
then add a velcro closure (so that it's not permanently attached
to the aircraft and require all sorts of paperwork and signatures
altho I could claim it was "owner-fabricated"...true?)



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Old February 22nd 07, 03:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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On Feb 22, 12:44 am, Journeyman wrote:
On 2007-02-21, Blanche wrote:



May I offer a gender-based observation -- bra strap. I usually wear
a polo/knit shirt to fly so that I can turn the collar up so that the
shoulder harness doesn't annoy my neck. That means I can easily stash
a couple pens in the bra strap. And yes, I've dropped pens but there's
always a couple in the side pocket next to my knee as well as another
one at the bra strap.


For pens, I daisy-chain a bunch of rubber bands, with one end going
through the hole in a spring clip, and the other end is attached to a
pen by a strip of duct tape. I clip the pen to the pad/lapboard and
never lose it. A second one in the side pocket in case the pen runs
dry unexpectedly makes adequate backup.

For the neck rub (not in a good way), I've seen people who do long
distance road trips install a fleece pad that you position on the
shoulder strap. I bet you could find something in an auto-supply
store.

Morris


WalMart sells them for $3. Great for summer flying when I'm wearing a
T shirt with no collar. The harness strap rubs like the dickens
without it.

--Jeff

 




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