What the difference between the

GNS 480 and the 430. My Bonanza has a MX 20 and I was told I should hook it
up to a 480.

On Apr 1, 8:56 pm, "Aluckyguess" wrote:
GNS 480 and the 430. My Bonanza has a MX 20 and I was told I should hook it
up to a 480.

Just a couple of differences. The 480 has airways, the 430 does not.
The 480 allows for user defined holds, the 430 does not. The 480
sequences procedure holds, the 430 "suspends" in holds. The 430 has
easy to use comm/nav knobs for easy access to the radios, the 480 does
not.

"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

GNS 480 and the 430. My Bonanza has a MX 20 and I was told I should hook
it
up to a 480.

Just a couple of differences. The 480 has airways, the 430 does not.
The 480 allows for user defined holds, the 430 does not. The 480
sequences procedure holds, the 430 "suspends" in holds. The 430 has
easy to use comm/nav knobs for easy access to the radios, the 480 does
not.

The 430 can display XM satellite weather (with a GDL 69 receiver); the 480
cannot.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

GNS 480 and the 430. My Bonanza has a MX 20 and I was told I should
hook it
up to a 480.

Just a couple of differences. The 480 has airways, the 430 does not.
The 480 allows for user defined holds, the 430 does not. The 480
sequences procedure holds, the 430 "suspends" in holds. The 430 has
easy to use comm/nav knobs for easy access to the radios, the 480 does
not.

The 430 can display XM satellite weather (with a GDL 69 receiver); the 480
cannot.
The MX 20 can display the weather and it is a lot bigger with a better
display.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

So the radios are hard to work on the 480? I heard the 480 was a lot harder
to learn

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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On Apr 1, 8:56 pm, "Aluckyguess" wrote:
GNS 480 and the 430. My Bonanza has a MX 20 and I was told I should hook
it
up to a 480.

Just a couple of differences. The 480 has airways, the 430 does not.
The 480 allows for user defined holds, the 430 does not. The 480
sequences procedure holds, the 430 "suspends" in holds. The 430 has
easy to use comm/nav knobs for easy access to the radios, the 480 does
not.

On Apr 2, 7:09 am, "Aluckyguess" wrote:
So the radios are hard to work on the 480? I heard the 480 was a lot harder
to learn


I guess it depends on the pilot. In the 480 you have to be on the
correct page in order to swap nav/com freq etc. The 430 has dedicated
knobs. I think the 430 is a bit more intuitive but if its your
airplane you will learn to use either one. I think the 480's flight
plan is a bit more complicated because you define start and end points
then route, the 430 just assumes the last fix is the end point (i.e.
you bring up the flt plan and see end to end). However, the 480 has
airways. I'm just waiting for the first NTSB report to list the 430's
lack of airways for causing a plane to go into a mountain. In
California our airways bend around mountains, if you just put in two
ends of the airway there may be a mountain in the middle.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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On Apr 2, 7:09 am, "Aluckyguess" wrote:
So the radios are hard to work on the 480? I heard the 480 was a lot
harder
to learn


I guess it depends on the pilot. In the 480 you have to be on the
correct page in order to swap nav/com freq etc. The 430 has dedicated
knobs. I think the 430 is a bit more intuitive but if its your
airplane you will learn to use either one. I think the 480's flight
plan is a bit more complicated because you define start and end points
then route, the 430 just assumes the last fix is the end point (i.e.
you bring up the flt plan and see end to end). However, the 480 has
airways. I'm just waiting for the first NTSB report to list the 430's
lack of airways for causing a plane to go into a mountain. In
California our airways bend around mountains, if you just put in two
ends of the airway there may be a mountain in the middle.

-Robert
I downloaded the simulator and the radio does have a nice function in
remembering 10 of the last radio frequencies. The 480 seems a little similar
to the Apollo 60 that is in the plane already. The 480 will also load the
approach plate on the MX20.
If I can find a deal on a 480 I think I will try it.

Thanks for the help

On Apr 2, 1:10 pm, "Aluckyguess" wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in ooglegroups.com...



On Apr 2, 7:09 am, "Aluckyguess" wrote:
So the radios are hard to work on the 480? I heard the 480 was a lot
harder
to learn

I guess it depends on the pilot. In the 480 you have to be on the
correct page in order to swap nav/com freq etc. The 430 has dedicated
knobs. I think the 430 is a bit more intuitive but if its your
airplane you will learn to use either one. I think the 480's flight
plan is a bit more complicated because you define start and end points
then route, the 430 just assumes the last fix is the end point (i.e.
you bring up the flt plan and see end to end). However, the 480 has
airways. I'm just waiting for the first NTSB report to list the 430's
lack of airways for causing a plane to go into a mountain. In
California our airways bend around mountains, if you just put in two
ends of the airway there may be a mountain in the middle.

-Robert

I downloaded the simulator and the radio does have a nice function in
remembering 10 of the last radio frequencies. The 480 seems a little similar
to the Apollo 60 that is in the plane already. The 480 will also load the
approach plate on the MX20.
If I can find a deal on a 480 I think I will try it.

I think that's what most people find. The 430 is a bit easier to learn
but the 480 is more powerful (or at least featureful).

-Robert

"Aluckyguess" wrote in message


I downloaded the simulator and the radio does have a nice function in
remembering 10 of the last radio frequencies. The 480 seems a little
similar to the Apollo 60 that is in the plane already.

There's a very good reason for that.

http://www.garmin.com/pressroom/corporate/082203.html

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In article , Aluckyguess wrote:
So the radios are hard to work on the 480? I heard the 480 was a lot harder
to learn

I don't think "a lot" is warranted; I could figure out how to do most of
what I wanted to do on the 480 without manual-reading and found it
reasonably intuitive, though the 430 makes the basics more obvious. On
the other hand, if you want to use the full functionality of the box I
like the 480 better than the 430; I think the flight planning functions
are more logical.

Physically, the 480 has a larger screen than the 430.

I gather there are places where /G aircraft can actually get direct
clearances instead of airways, but not around here; having airways saves
a bunch of twiddling.