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Old December 3rd 06, 10:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Doug[_1_]
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Default Question of aborted landing after instrument approach

Bottom line. You do what is safest.

Some airports (Aspen is one), pilots use a "balked landing" procedure
for a missed below the MAP. At Aspen it is signifigantly different
than the missed due to terrain. (It is a climbing left hand turn and
the missed is a right hand turn). This requires the airline working out
the procedure.

As a private pilot, if I had to do a balked landing at Aspen, I
definitely would NOT make the right hand turn back to the MAP!! You
would run into a mountain. Things like this is why IMC approaches at
small mountain airports are bit dicey.

So it all depends. I agree a balked landing and a missed are different
procedures.

Also, I have landed on taxiways before, so that MIGHT be an option.
MIGHT...

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Old December 4th 06, 12:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
John R. Copeland
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Default Question of aborted landing after instrument approach

"Doug" wrote in message ps.com...
Bottom line. You do what is safest.

Some airports (Aspen is one), pilots use a "balked landing" procedure
for a missed below the MAP. At Aspen it is signifigantly different
than the missed due to terrain. (It is a climbing left hand turn and
the missed is a right hand turn). This requires the airline working out
the procedure.

As a private pilot, if I had to do a balked landing at Aspen, I
definitely would NOT make the right hand turn back to the MAP!! You
would run into a mountain. Things like this is why IMC approaches at
small mountain airports are bit dicey.

So it all depends. I agree a balked landing and a missed are different
procedures.

Also, I have landed on taxiways before, so that MIGHT be an option.
MIGHT...


Not at Aspen, though. :-)
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Old December 4th 06, 02:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Default Question of aborted landing after instrument approach

Fly the published missed approach procedure, that is what it is for.


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Old December 4th 06, 03:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Fly the published missed approach procedure, that is what it is for.


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Your posts here do not inspire confidence in pilotweb.org.

Jose
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Old December 4th 06, 01:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Jose,

Your posts here do not inspire confidence in pilotweb.org.


Hehe, just what I was thinking. What kind of experts are that if they
give the wrong answer.

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Old December 4th 06, 04:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Jose wrote:

Fly the published missed approach procedure, that is what it is for.


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Your posts here do not inspire confidence in pilotweb.org.

Jose


His respone is 100% correct.
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Old December 4th 06, 10:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Bob Noel
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In article , Sam Spade wrote:

His respone is 100% correct.


not quite.

Just as starting a missed approach procedure too early, flying
the missed too late can put you into unprotected airspace.

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Old December 5th 06, 03:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Jim Macklin
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Default Question of aborted landing after instrument approach

On a missed approach begun early, prior to reaching the MAP,
climb to the missed approach altitude but do not turn until
reaching the MAP or that point indicated on the chart. If a
turn is indicated, perform that turn as charted, but not
prior to the expected position past the MAP.

If a climbing turn is the missed approach procedure, an
early miss requires a straight ahead climb to the MAP and
then the turn.


"Bob Noel" wrote in
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| In article , Sam Spade
wrote:
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| His respone is 100% correct.
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| not quite.
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| Just as starting a missed approach procedure too early,
flying
| the missed too late can put you into unprotected airspace.
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| Bob Noel
| Looking for a sig the
| lawyers will hate
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Old December 6th 06, 12:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Default Question of aborted landing after instrument approach

Bob Noel wrote:

In article , Sam Spade wrote:


His respone is 100% correct.



not quite.

Just as starting a missed approach procedure too early, flying
the missed too late can put you into unprotected airspace.


No doubt about it. Nonetheless, his answer is still correct. The moral
of the story is that you better know what you are doing and have
adequate climb performance to overcome the balked landing problem when
you depart MDA on a high HAT/HAA instrument approach procedure.

One of the best assurances against getting into this bind is to have
landing assured when leaving MDA; i.e., a clear view of the runway.
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Old December 4th 06, 07:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Travis Marlatte
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"PilotWeb.org" wrote in message
ups.com...
Fly the published missed approach procedure, that is what it is for.


Visit our website for more aviation data, to talk with an expert, view
jobs, post your pilot resume and profile, and read aviation news.


http://PilotWeb.org


And now back to our regularly scheduled program...

I agree with Jose. Your flippant response in spite of the fact that others
had already posted quotes from the AIM to the contrary will not lead me to
your website.

-------------------------------
Travis
Lake N3094P
PWK


 




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