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Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
http://www.flixxy.com/besler-steam-airplane.htm

Cool! Interesting how easy prop reversal is, which makes sense since it's a
steam engine. The Wikipedia page claims that it was capable of STOL
operation since the prop could be used for braking on landing.

On Jan 16, 3:42*pm, Some Other Guy wrote:
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
http://www.flixxy.com/besler-steam-airplane.htm

Cool! *Interesting how easy prop reversal is, which makes sense since it's a
steam engine. *The Wikipedia page claims that it was capable of STOL
operation since the prop could be used for braking on landing.

Larger prop driven airplanes did not reverse their props, but went
into beta range, meaning the pitch was negative, in effect pushing the
air forward, not back. Some complex singles also had beta range
capability for their prop pitch. It makes for shorter landings, does
not make for shorter take offs though.

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On Jan 16, 3:42 pm, Some Other Guy wrote:
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
http://www.flixxy.com/besler-steam-airplane.htm

Cool! Interesting how easy prop reversal is, which makes sense since
it's a steam engine. The Wikipedia page claims that it was capable of
STOL operation since the prop could be used for braking on landing.

Larger prop driven airplanes did not reverse their props, but went
into beta range, meaning the pitch was negative, in effect pushing the
air forward, not back. Some complex singles also had beta range
capability for their prop pitch. It makes for shorter landings, does
not make for shorter take offs though.

But sites like

http://www.flyingkettle.com/besler6.htm

claim that the engine really did reverse:

Each time as the machine swooped down and the landing wheels touched
ground, the pilot pulled back a small lever at the side of the cockpit
and the steam engine at the nose of the plane instantly reversed,
whirling the propeller backwards, creating a powerful braking effect
which reduced the landing runs to a very short distance.

I have only run toy steam engines at home, but I do know that they are just
as happy to run one direction as another. I have never imagined one flying,
though.

"Some Other Guy" wrote
But sites like

http://www.flyingkettle.com/besler6.htm

claim that the engine really did reverse:

Each time as the machine swooped down and the landing wheels touched
ground, the pilot pulled back a small lever at the side of the cockpit
and the steam engine at the nose of the plane instantly reversed,
whirling the propeller backwards, creating a powerful braking effect
which reduced the landing runs to a very short distance.

I have only run toy steam engines at home, but I do know that they are
just
as happy to run one direction as another. I have never imagined one
flying,
though.

I saw a video once of a guy with a steam powered plane. One thing he did
was back up on the ramp. It was funny to see steam blowing through the prop
backwards, the prop then stop and go the right way.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote:
"Some Other Guy" wrote
But sites like

http://www.flyingkettle.com/besler6.htm

claim that the engine really did reverse:

Each time as the machine swooped down and the landing wheels
touched ground, the pilot pulled back a small lever at the side of
the cockpit and the steam engine at the nose of the plane instantly
reversed, whirling the propeller backwards, creating a powerful
braking effect which reduced the landing runs to a very short
distance.

I have only run toy steam engines at home, but I do know that they
are just
as happy to run one direction as another. I have never imagined one
flying,
though.

I saw a video once of a guy with a steam powered plane. One thing he
did
was back up on the ramp. It was funny to see steam blowing through
the prop backwards, the prop then stop and go the right way.

There is a a video on youtube that shows the Besler steam plane backing up
(starting around 2:45 into the video):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw6NFmcnW-8

Thought this was a neat related video, showing a tiny steam driven RC-sized
prop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOU3DBQGlzA

On Jan 17, 9:42*am, Some Other Guy wrote:
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
http://www.flixxy.com/besler-steam-airplane.htm

Cool! *Interesting how easy prop reversal is, which makes sense since it's a
steam engine. *The Wikipedia page claims that it was capable of STOL
operation since the prop could be used for braking on landing.

Wow. Of course the jet prop does the same