Best Club class glider

Thinking about purchasing a club class glider for next year (can't afford a
JS1 or ASG29). I know Std Cirri seem to be popular, but notice G Dale has
bought a DG100 or 101 and won the UK Nationals in it -just wondered which
would be the best for club class competition and what the pro's and con's
would be of the following:-

Std Cirrus, 75 or 81 ?

ASW19/19B

ASW15B

LSIF

DG100/101

Std Jantar 2/3

Glasflugel Std Libelle

Glasflugel Hornet

Pegase

I'll have about £15k max to spend.

On Dec 12, 10:40*am, Paul T wrote:
Thinking about purchasing a club class glider for next year (can't afford a
JS1 or ASG29). I know Std Cirri seem to be popular, but notice G Dale has
bought a DG100 or 101 and won the UK Nationals in it -just wondered which
would be the best for club class competition and what the pro's and con's
would be of the following:-

Std Cirrus, 75 or 81 ?

ASW19/19B

ASW15B

LSIF

DG100/101

Std Jantar 2/3

Glasflugel Std Libelle

Glasflugel Hornet

Pegase

I'll have about £15k max to spend.

It's the one with the nicest trailer and best finish, in that order.

Seriously.

The whole point of handicapped racing is to equalize the gliders. Any
glider that suddenly starts winning every race is going to get a new
handicap - and will probably end up at the bottom of the list for a
while.

More important to get a nice glider that you will enjoy flying, IMHO.

Then race the bejeezus out of it!!!

Cheers,

Kirk
66
(grumpily getting beaten by LS1s in his LS6 in the US Club Class)

From my little experience at club class competitions, the pilot seems
to have a lot to do with it...
Most on your list have done well.
Coincidentally, there's an SZD55 for sale in the previous RAS post to
yours, close enough to drive home. They're a very good club class
ship.
Jim

Keep in mind what Kirk said about what you want. It has to be in a
good trailer, and a ship you enjoy flying. That is by far teh most
important thing, as most of your flying will not likely be done in
competition. Now, for the competing part. I would not recommend
getting the highest performing ship allowed. Why? A slightly lesser
performing ship can follow you and you will lose on handicap. Don't
get the bottom end and try to win based on handicap. There will be
days when you can't get home and the others do. Your handicap will
never make up that loss.

Find a ship you like in the 70-80% up through the allowed performance
range. Seal it, put in good instruments, and fly. Not just weekend
fun flying, flag pole sitting stuff. If you are serious on competing,
fly like you are competing. Every day. Has been taking me half a
bloody contest to get out of "relaxed" flying mode and get into more
serious racing mode. I am still relaxed and having fun, but being a
bit more selective. My daily scores tend to show this.

Steve Leonard

*Don't
get the bottom end and try to win based on handicap. *There will be
days when you can't get home and the others do. *Your handicap will
never make up that loss.

Oh damn there goes my plan to take the 2-22 racing next year

If I had a club class glider of any type listed it would probably take
a long time to wipe the grin off my face.

At 18:22 12 December 2011, JS wrote:
From my little experience at club class competitions, the pilot seems
to have a lot to do with it...
Most on your list have done well.
Coincidentally, there's an SZD55 for sale in the previous RAS post to
yours, close enough to drive home. They're a very good club class
ship.
Jim


If I could get an SZD55 for £15k I would be very tempted! (and no don't
want a syndicate partner.)

Sorry, forgot the L/E ratio is only ~1.2:1
Last I paid for Euros was 1.6 US Pesos.
....Hope you have a vintage Desmoquattro to finance this with.
Jim

On Dec 13, 1:18*am, Paul T wrote:

If I could get an SZD55 for £15k I would be very tempted! (and no don't
want a syndicate partner.)

In all this strategizing remember that what works for g dale might not work for everyone. G can use lower handicap and catch/ stay with the gaggle. A less stellar pilot will lose the gaggle. A better strategy for a new pilot: get a bit better handicap than the rest and make sure they don't leave you.. Alone. Low. In the blue.

Same goes for starts. A newer pilot should
Start early. Let the big guns run over you and try to stick with them.

Club gliders from the 70s and 80s benefit a lot from clean up and good instruments

John cichrame

John Who? "John cichrame"

I would get the Standard Cirrus.