Not required, by worthwhile, training

Last summer, I put my ear to the wind and I figured out that 'spin training' was worthwhile, but not required to obtain a private pilot glider rating.

What other training is worthwhile, but not required? What can I ask a qualified instructor to teach me after I obtain my glider rating?

For example, I'd like to learn how to recover from inverted flight, because rotor is common where I fly.

What else?

In article ,
, son_of_flubber says...

Last summer, I put my ear to the wind and I figured out that 'spin training' was worthwhile, but not required to obtain a private pilot glider rating.

What other training is worthwhile, but not required? What can I ask a qualified instructor to teach me after I obtain my glider rating?

For example, I'd like to learn how to recover from inverted flight, because rotor is common where I fly.

What else?

How's about.... spend some time under the hood. And how about unusual
attitude recovery from under the hood.

It's fun, and one day, it might save yer butt.

--
Duncan.

On Saturday, January 19, 2013 7:34:04 PM UTC-5, Dave Doe wrote:

How's about.... spend some time under the hood. And how about unusual
attitude recovery from under the hood.

I'm guessing that you are suggesting some sort of IFR training. My only technique for IFR is "benign spiral", so yeah I'd like to get some basic IFR skills. Wet wave puts me at risk of flying into a cloud, or getting stuck up above the cloud deck.

How do I get IFR-for-glider-pilots training? Do I have to go to a powered flight school? Do I have to get a single engine rating before I can do IFR training? Seems like a power plane would be the efficient way to to this.

In article ,
, son_of_flubber says...

On Saturday, January 19, 2013 7:34:04 PM UTC-5, Dave Doe wrote:

How's about.... spend some time under the hood. And how about
unusual attitude recovery from under the hood.

I'm guessing that you are suggesting some sort of IFR training. My
only technique for IFR is "benign spiral", so yeah I'd like to get
some basic IFR skills. Wet wave puts me at risk of flying into a
cloud, or getting stuck up above the cloud deck.

How do I get IFR-for-glider-pilots training? Do I have to go to a
powered flight school? Do I have to get a single engine rating before
I can do IFR training? Seems like a power plane would be the efficient
way to to this.


Sorry, can't answer the how to go about it thing. However, I believe
you're best to do the training (IFR) in a glider and not a light a/c -
as that's what you fly! - should an excursion into cloud ever happen.
I'm sure you've seen the "178 seconds to live" thing - you don't wanna
be one of those. And I don't know a lot about gliding, being a light
a/c pilot only (involved w' a gliding club for years, but never been in
one, yet ) - however I believe gliders are pretty slippery things,
and over-speeding is far more sucseptable in a glider than a small
plane. So knowing when and how to recover correctly from a spiral dive
(or similar) is probably pretty damn important IMO - use of correct
recovery procedure, air-brakes, spin recovery, etc. Talk to your
instructor about it.

I'm sure such instruction is probably optional - but it's great fun and
IMO well worth knowing that you *can* do it - should it ever happen.

--
Duncan.

On Jan 19, 4:44*pm, son_of_flubber wrote:
How do I get IFR-for-glider-pilots training? *Do I have to go to a powered flight school? *Do I have to get a single engine rating before I can do IFR training? *Seems like a power plane would be the efficient way to to this.

Do what I did and buy a lesson in a power plane. The instructor was
happy to let me fly under a hood. It did not matter that I was not a
power pilot.

Flying itself was not that big of a deal, by the way.

Bart

Getting thrown inverted is not very likely, even in rotor, due to the long
wings of the glider. I've flown a lot of wave and rotor and never felt out
of control. Flying a tow plane in rotor is a different story...

I think you'd be better served to ask your instructor for cross country
training so that you don't spend all your time after licensing hanging out
over the airport, becoming bored, and leaving the sport.

If you exercise sound judgment, it's unlikely you'll get caught above
coulds. I know... It *can* happen, but that's usually due to a series of
poor decisions which got you into that position in the first place.


"son_of_flubber" wrote in message
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Last summer, I put my ear to the wind and I figured out that 'spin
training' was worthwhile, but not required to obtain a private pilot
glider rating.

What other training is worthwhile, but not required? What can I ask a
qualified instructor to teach me after I obtain my glider rating?

For example, I'd like to learn how to recover from inverted flight,
because rotor is common where I fly.

What else?

On Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:13:10 PM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
Getting thrown inverted is not very likely, even in rotor,

The appeal of aerobatic training is two-fold. First there is the mechanical mastery and better feel for attitude and control. Second is 'anti-panic-training'; not sure what the CFIGs call this, but the idea is to jump into stressful situations in a controlled way, so that when something stressful happens you keep a level head and solve the problem.

I think you'd be better served to ask your instructor for cross country
training

XC is already on my list. I started this winter by working through Frank Paynter's book and flying tasks in Condor. (Just to clarify, I got my glider rating in the fall.)

On Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:13:10 PM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
Getting thrown inverted is not very likely, even in rotor, due to the long

wings of the glider. .... Flying a tow plane in rotor is a different story...

Have you ever been in a glider on tow and seen the tow plane go inverted?

On Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:32:59 PM UTC-7, son_of_flubber wrote:
On Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:13:10 PM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:

Getting thrown inverted is not very likely, even in rotor, due to the long


Unlikely perhaps, but not impossible. I got turned upside down in wave in South Africa flying a 19m Jantar-1 many years ago. My long wings didn't help - the glider pitched forward nose down and then flipped. I recovered with full dive brakes (and a very high pulse rate).

Mike

Wow! I heard about gliders rolling inverted but never heard about gliders pitching inverted. This is something more common with tailless aircrafts such as hang gliders. Was it just a little pass 90 degrees down or you were looking up at the ground? I imagine recovering from this is much more dangerous than rolling inverted as more speed is building up. Good choice activating the spoilers.

Ramy